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From: ron@ronnatalie.com (Ronald Natalie)
Subject: [TUHS] Gnu/Stallman (was Bugs in V6 'dcheck')
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 14:26:38 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BB339AF5-B9A5-418B-933E-349D196EEED4@ronnatalie.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC20D2MrY2zCcDcFm=kOmSR3H98evRQdEei3zxkqjEVfoNO57Q@mail.gmail.com>


On Jun 5, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Clem Cole <clemc at ccc.com> wrote:

> We had quite the panic figuring out what it was and then forced field service to ensure all CPU cards were matched -- what a pain in the tuckus.   With the 5000 when we went full SMP, we screamed at Moto and got them to clean up their act so that what was dumped on the stack could be restarted on any '020 regardless of stepping/microcode etc.
> 
Sounds like our fun with Intel and their i860 RISC chips.    Every chip stepping had it's own "INTEL PROPRIETARY" errata which had fun things like "A store followed by any number of instructions and then a load from the same location may ...."    I loved the fact that Intel didn't think it was a good idea to tell people what they had to do to make the chips work.   Even when we got the Errata, they were sometimes wrong.     I spent a lot of time when stuck calling my contact at the factory and making discrete inquiries which led to things like:

Intel:   Remember those two NOP instructions we told you to put at the beginning of the ISR?
Me:     Yes, but the errata sheet says that ceased to be necessary after the B2 stepping of the chip.
Intel:   Well put them back and perhaps five or six more.

Of course they weren't as bad as dealing with some aspects of IBM at the time.

Me:   There's a bug in the driver for this card.
IBM:  That's not possible, it's product.

Oh, excuse me....there can't possibly be problems in the released product.

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Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-02  2:09 Doug McIlroy
2014-06-02  2:24 ` John Cowan
2014-06-02  2:59 ` Warner Losh
2014-06-02  3:17   ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2014-06-02  3:37     ` John Cowan
2014-06-02  4:08       ` scj
2014-06-02  5:03       ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2014-06-02 12:31         ` Ronald Natalie
2014-06-02  4:04     ` Nick Downing
2014-06-02  4:43       ` John Cowan
2014-06-02  6:23         ` arnold
2014-06-02 17:35           ` John Cowan
2014-06-02 18:44             ` Warner Losh
2014-06-02 18:52               ` John Cowan
2014-06-02  3:18   ` John Cowan
2014-06-02  6:08   ` Steve Nickolas
2014-06-02 12:04 ` Clem Cole
2014-06-02 12:27   ` Ronald Natalie
2014-06-02 13:28     ` Clem Cole
2014-06-02 14:11       ` Tim Bradshaw
2014-06-02 14:25         ` Clem Cole
2014-06-02 14:41           ` John Cowan
2014-06-02 14:50             ` Armando Stettner
2014-06-02 18:27               ` Brantley Coile
2014-06-02 18:52                 ` Dan Cross
2014-06-02 19:10                   ` arnold
2014-06-03  1:45                     ` Brantley Coile
2014-06-02 19:30                   ` John Cowan
2014-06-02 19:54                     ` Dan Cross
2014-06-02 23:37                       ` John Cowan
2014-06-03  1:24                         ` Dan Cross
2014-06-03  2:16                           ` John Cowan
2014-06-03  2:18                             ` Dan Cross
2014-06-02 19:47                   ` Chris Nehren
2014-06-02 20:23                     ` Dan Cross
2014-06-03 18:48                       ` [TUHS] Evolutionary Paths (was Gnu/Stallman (was Bugs in V6 'dcheck')) scj
2014-06-04  1:10                         ` Larry McVoy
2014-06-04  3:42                           ` Greg Chesson
2014-06-05  0:43                             ` Larry McVoy
2014-06-02 21:08                   ` [TUHS] Gnu/Stallman (was Bugs in V6 'dcheck') Charlie Kester
2014-06-03  0:37                   ` Tim Newsham
2014-06-02 20:06           ` Jacob Goense
2014-06-02 14:26         ` arnold
2014-06-02 14:30       ` John Cowan
2014-06-02 14:24     ` John Cowan
2014-06-02 14:29       ` Ronald Natalie
2014-06-02 14:37       ` Clem Cole
2014-06-05  7:31       ` Arno Griffioen
2014-06-05  8:24         ` emu
2014-06-05  9:17         ` Wesley Parish
2014-06-05 11:26           ` Brantley Coile
2014-06-05 13:34             ` Jesus Cea
2014-06-11 12:10           ` Michael Parson
2014-06-12  1:20             ` Wesley Parish
2014-06-05 15:07         ` Clem Cole
2014-06-05 18:26           ` Ronald Natalie [this message]

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