From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 761 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2022 04:19:31 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 31 Dec 2022 04:19:31 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 524DC4237B; Sat, 31 Dec 2022 14:19:25 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-pg1-f169.google.com (mail-pg1-f169.google.com [209.85.215.169]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1647B42363 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2022 14:19:19 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-pg1-f169.google.com with SMTP id b12so15239875pgj.6 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2022 20:19:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=iitbombay-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=to:references:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:date :in-reply-to:from:subject:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=xWhU7p/8PZTea/Wll9LG6iCo8+qYKpmxJ9CyWpm18YM=; b=YKrpeF8X46orKVCnTgZQMrudQpaxDRMvLNhaaASb33C/JO7AkGqZ3jK02UL/JsxUDh XBj/2MqJS6dtpok4BF17OOgBsr0fKjhAawQLNOlbVzIdJHAy2QnYfS3smVLKEd6VKYNB xwkH031PfXIbaqLFnph4uYEcnA7ms0e/Lmoe9eDnc5kcquwYVzonWUy1dg7rhPimBact +4aqdF0lq2qmdiLMgKwWOcqzqqfxL+yBp8vGVmQDbM9TtFxhWTj9ocB4icy2xinz4lBi kxbesab2xENuCuSeJI4ZhEBKfe5kBJrOwCI/xKO3/Ph4GD7I0abk1RYZyan0ACuUpkRe zUYQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=to:references:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:date :in-reply-to:from:subject:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=xWhU7p/8PZTea/Wll9LG6iCo8+qYKpmxJ9CyWpm18YM=; b=4mxm+EinVxXcI0wUA8H/Rggk7aYGaQVF28F8yQa9hBtEUEV/OAD83KpZPFow39nIWb lQGyON6P1dWws4/FlQi69ihzVmY0CIz9E7spF3RfkDrjvsww0IQdmdawYQUU1IekrREm veAg5mcB+xSnunOwOZGjivnru+QFof6o/KkF9TzsEiLsPsANzrMKl9q/kHWJVJz6iyVc 0Ru6i3lv4Oa9Zw3iTMlyae8ckyGhSsmBrve65spP5XSLOmyP3GuFeHgIgjIWRA+Aqn2p lvVuL7imNY4xbJ/lNl9BXpiyALhZOwX1YALlZfTAfOcHke+hN5CsfxC+ytlRL2J0eh0b ayUg== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2koDk/tGEA9cad86cTdxeMmJMUAUE0dw3Rhf8UVnLGQXdsaXPCl+ bjbfcyciaudEbKzKtGdBbGaoJ9F6nlMpcaok X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXujpRJX020ZKUPmTc/gNh79/053Bn7ed9v4pdHa7cEDhEFxCe5h4tsrBiEvjDtU6psNzylJXQ== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a00:1f04:b0:582:ef:9c8c with SMTP id be4-20020a056a001f0400b0058200ef9c8cmr3888707pfb.18.1672460298589; Fri, 30 Dec 2022 20:18:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpclient.apple (107-215-223-229.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net. [107.215.223.229]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w2-20020a628202000000b0057ef1262347sm14882396pfd.19.2022.12.30.20.18.17 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 30 Dec 2022 20:18:18 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3731.300.101.1.3\)) From: Bakul Shah In-Reply-To: <20221231035931.GG5825@mcvoy.com> Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2022 20:18:06 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <52FB6638-AEFF-4A4F-8C2E-32089D577BA0@planet.nl> <464819f0-d2f6-2a60-6481-a194f4428b4d@case.edu> <20221230200246.GW5825@mcvoy.com> <88f83b4c-b3f9-ed87-b2fa-560fb369742a@makerlisp.com> <20221231035931.GG5825@mcvoy.com> To: Larry McVoy X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3731.300.101.1.3) Message-ID-Hash: M6SJNPVI2DSEASA47BVLUXPEJHEP7IEP X-Message-ID-Hash: M6SJNPVI2DSEASA47BVLUXPEJHEP7IEP X-MailFrom: bakul@iitbombay.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: A few comments on porting the Bourne shell List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Dec 30, 2022, at 7:59 PM, Larry McVoy wrote: > > For a login shell, bash is my shell of choice. It's bloated but I'm > typing this on a 5 year old Lenova X1 Carbon with 16GB of memory and > 4 cores and it's fine. It was fine a 133mhz Pentium. I switched to zsh in 1993-94 when I found out it had sh compatible syntax but also had some useful features from csh (bang commands, a{b,c} expansion, aliases etc.). Back then my machine had 16MB of memory (IIRC a 50Mhz i486). zsh is the Cadillac of shells. But I also use rc, the VWbug of shells on plan9!