From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 8fb9d6b1 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 03:49:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 065FD9C0F0; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 13:49:19 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6458C9C0B3; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 13:48:54 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=serissa.com header.i=@serissa.com header.b="qZA7bE9K"; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=messagingengine.com header.i=@messagingengine.com header.b="WrON25cJ"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 884EB9C0B3; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 13:48:52 +1000 (AEST) Received: from wout5-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout5-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.21]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C67B39C092 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 13:48:51 +1000 (AEST) Received: from compute7.internal (compute7.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA2266F5; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 22:48:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute7.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 04 Nov 2019 22:48:51 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=serissa.com; h= from:message-id:content-type:mime-version:subject:date :in-reply-to:cc:to:references; s=fm1; bh=BGWbnRKP6CSwfMkpwi6Neyl tptbYeY/XSu/+mWmpqUY=; b=qZA7bE9KjEP9bk1Xou3kIUh8SgQbYtCoygJyOKB KC1yapM5B8BgaH/JV8dP7GblJTQFBsuAOBDLaQH0Hcjy2qNfCJuA1cF2ZqKPqz0p IOG1UKCky8t/6X5i9coTfzFUUMIJHcYqE57PIr1q1MTnxr66rZq8oSLMR2JQlK20 DCxxnoQ/1zZaUjNTuFvMYqcJXcwSh1ofHZ8urpVjANF8Wfali7zxwvfryuBG0SiK 9X+XD1e2YsKSVXfaLoxyDri3nH/2Skv2ih9XxTysthP1pBV1O1HtyD1tEL5wPtwi vcw7/2KuhnWEBERK5tOKtvMFxgWDXCo4ZK3gqMheuBvTu4g== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=BGWbnR KP6CSwfMkpwi6NeyltptbYeY/XSu/+mWmpqUY=; b=WrON25cJwqwvmsma8IWlFJ 0TYOWA0nlrrSZ3iAgA6zktY9pRv0RVU696AG7jLOOqp3mTSivrgNNYkJHfskwFFc j0W4yzpFKgyoZNSrWDvNOHiFOjAWa0g8fv8Om7YUx6OeFTUDh7ZFbUqs8KrkWO3F N+pmrOfcrf+d44bZDZcNXhHwssU7VNLH5wkoSjNrZtZpRBOca11jn6MEItfpStmu GrD6K5v1eKZyadqTqx5Os3E0i3d7qy3QW/2aFZ4F667ZeDvzWOPO1zFOuUAi+CSW sB//jOY5/9pJkL2HjJyymSvS0yNJm5DTv8Ay7o1Lz7jLcwaocYLKKufkMO+D/KTg == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedufedruddugedgieefucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhephffktgggufffjgfvfhfosegrtdhmrehhtdejnecuhfhrohhmpefnrgifrhgv nhgtvgcuufhtvgifrghrthcuoehsthgvfigrrhhtsehsvghrihhsshgrrdgtohhmqeenuc fkphepudehuddrvddtfedrheejrdduieelnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehs thgvfigrrhhtsehsvghrihhsshgrrdgtohhmnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd X-ME-Proxy: Received: from [192.168.167.71] (pool-151-203-57-169.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [151.203.57.169]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A94DD306005C; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 22:48:49 -0500 (EST) From: Lawrence Stewart Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_BDAE60BC-47E0-4D7F-A1BA-D1F2467B1298" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 22:48:48 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: TUHS main list References: <116B676F-5917-481A-9634-0E6C5F702B9B@mcjones.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Subject: Re: [TUHS] Happy birthday Morris worm X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --Apple-Mail=_BDAE60BC-47E0-4D7F-A1BA-D1F2467B1298 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I might have been the fan who called John Shoch and Jon Hupp=E2=80=99s = attention to John Brunner. At some point, Brunner came to visit PARC = and we had a nice discussion about how Brunner had been able to = anticipate this aspect of networking. -Larry > On 2019, Nov 4, at 2:24 PM, Richard Salz wrote: >=20 > The John F. Shoch and Jon Hupp paper extensively credits Brunner, and = uses quotes from the book as section intro's. >=20 > On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 1:58 PM Bakul Shah > wrote: > I am surprised no one mentioned The Shockwave Rider by John Brunner, = published in 1975. Excerpt: >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_BDAE60BC-47E0-4D7F-A1BA-D1F2467B1298 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 I = might have been the fan who called John Shoch and Jon = Hupp=E2=80=99s attention to John Brunner.  At some point, Brunner = came to visit PARC and we had a nice discussion about how Brunner had = been able to anticipate this aspect of networking.

-Larry

On 2019, = Nov 4, at 2:24 PM, Richard Salz <rich.salz@gmail.com> wrote:

The John F. Shoch = and Jon Hupp paper extensively credits Brunner, and uses quotes from the = book as section intro's.

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 1:58 PM Bakul Shah <bakul@bitblocks.com>= wrote:
I am surprised no one mentioned The = Shockwave Rider by John Brunner, published in 1975. Excerpt:



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