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From: jsteve@superglobalmegacorp.com (Jason Stevens)
Subject: [TUHS] Why Linux not another PC/UNIX [was Mach for i386 ...]
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 10:07:13 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BE423CA1-2D95-42CC-BE5D-68B7F13B324E@superglobalmegacorp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <58af66a8.RixQ2R2YtVU32E8p%schily@schily.net>

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Isn't the lack of notices and wide distribution which also lead VM/370 and friends being in the public domain?  It's odd now that history is fluid they are now considered open source?

On February 24, 2017 6:48:08 AM GMT+08:00, Joerg Schilling <schily at schily.net> wrote:
>Random832 <random832 at fastmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017, at 14:15, Clem Cole wrote:
>> > Copyright *protection* is automatic ??? as soon as the code is
>written it
>> > is
>> > considered protected.  Copyright *registration* is just a formality
>> > necessary to instigate litigation.  There is no time limit for
>> > registration.
>>
>> That's true today, but to my understanding wasn't true in 1988.
>(Well,
>> registration wasn't a requirement to be copyrighted - that
>requirement
>> went away retroactively in 1978, and only applied to unpublished
>works
>> then.) The change seems to have been March 1, 1989 from what I can
>find.
>
From what I have in mind, there have been changes from around 1992 from
>the 
>Berne convention. Before, US code (even when it was copyrighted) was
>not 
>protected in Europe.
>
>I know that in former times, code was only copyrighted in the USA in
>case a 
>sample had been given to a governmental site. I thought this changed
>together 
>with the Berne convention....
>
>Given that the AT&T code that was used by BSD does not have a copyright
>notice, 
>it seems to be obvious that it was not copyrighted as AT&T did not give
>a 
>sample to the government.
>
>So the question was whether there was a copyright problem with the fact
>that 
>BSD included the code. The fact that AT&T did give away their code did
>exhaust 
>the right to prevent distribution.
>
>BSD on the other side did bundle the right to distribute with the
>condition 
>that the license notice must not be removed and that distributors need
>to 
>announce that they include software developed at BSD.
>
>AT&T removed this notice and did not announce the porevenance.
>
>This is why BSD finally won...
>
>Jörg
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-24  2:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-22  3:38 Clem Cole
2017-02-22  4:28 ` Dan Cross
2017-02-22 15:36   ` Clem Cole
2017-02-22 16:11     ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-22 17:00       ` Clem Cole
2017-02-22 17:06         ` Chet Ramey
2017-02-22 18:24         ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-22 19:35           ` Clem Cole
2017-02-22 20:18             ` arnold
2017-02-22 22:11               ` Clem Cole
2017-02-22 21:34             ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-22 22:56               ` Clem Cole
2017-02-22 23:13                 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-22 23:51                   ` Clem Cole
2017-02-22 23:51           ` Paul Ruizendaal
2017-02-23 19:15             ` Clem Cole
2017-02-23 20:31               ` Random832
2017-02-23 22:48                 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-24  2:07                   ` Jason Stevens [this message]
2017-02-23 23:06                 ` Wesley Parish
2017-02-22 17:41       ` Arthur Krewat
2017-02-22 21:00     ` Michael Kerpan
2017-02-22 22:03       ` Arno Griffioen
2017-02-22 22:51         ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-22 23:29         ` Clem Cole
2017-02-23  4:53           ` Gregg Levine
2017-02-22 22:18       ` Clem Cole
2017-02-24  3:53     ` Dan Cross
2017-02-22  5:56 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-24  5:31   ` John Labovitz

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