From: segaloco via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org>
To: Rich Salz <rich.salz@gmail.com>
Cc: Bakul Shah <bakul@iitbombay.org>,
The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: [TUHS] Re: The era of general purpose computing (Re: AIX moved into maintainance mode
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 23:24:58 +0000 [thread overview]
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In my mind there would probably be a strong correlation between engineers making products unnecessarily complicated (whether they want to or not) and end users deciding en masse not to sink the time into learning how to maintain increasingly convoluted and esoteric designs.
On the flip-side, a push towards modularity and maintainability would likely result in more folks feeling some confidence they can work on things themselves.
Long story short, computers aren't getting more complicated as a *result* of folks turning their nose up at maintenance, that's rather a symptom of the bigger planned obsolescence game. I highly doubt the number of people who would or wouldn't want to be able to fix something even occurs to the corporate overlords, they see dollar signs, not QoL for their customers.
- Matt G.
------- Original Message -------
On Thursday, January 19th, 2023 at 2:29 PM, Rich Salz <rich.salz@gmail.com> wrote:
>> What % of people running Chromebooks, Android or IOS
>> do any real programming on it? Even for laptops and
>> desktops that % is quite low. Most people run just a
>> few apps.
>
> So what. How many people fix their own cars, TVs, etc.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-19 23:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-18 9:43 [TUHS] " arnold
2023-01-18 14:46 ` [TUHS] " Phil Budne
2023-01-18 14:55 ` Ralph Corderoy
2023-01-19 14:42 ` Liam Proven
2023-01-19 15:04 ` Warner Losh
2023-01-19 15:15 ` Liam Proven
2023-01-18 15:13 ` arnold
2023-01-18 15:14 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-18 16:10 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-18 16:19 ` Stuff Received
2023-01-18 16:19 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-18 16:27 ` [TUHS] Maintenance mode on AIX Ron Natalie
2023-01-18 16:38 ` [TUHS] " Larry McVoy
2023-01-18 16:59 ` Clem Cole
2023-01-18 17:08 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-18 17:21 ` Will Senn
2023-01-18 19:50 ` David Barto
2023-01-19 14:25 ` Liam Proven
2023-01-18 20:34 ` Arno Griffioen via TUHS
2023-01-18 20:50 ` Brad Spencer
2023-01-18 16:36 ` [TUHS] Re: AIX moved into maintainance mode Will Senn
2023-01-18 16:42 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-18 16:57 ` Will Senn
2023-01-18 17:16 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-18 17:25 ` Will Senn
2023-01-18 21:09 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-18 21:18 ` Kevin Bowling
2023-01-19 1:13 ` Joseph Holsten
2023-01-19 15:04 ` Liam Proven
2023-01-18 19:25 ` Dave Horsfall
2023-01-19 15:02 ` Liam Proven
2023-01-19 15:12 ` arnold
2023-01-19 17:46 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2023-01-19 18:24 ` Doug McIntyre
2023-01-19 19:44 ` Chet Ramey
2023-01-20 13:09 ` Liam Proven
2023-01-20 14:37 ` Harald Arnesen
2023-01-18 16:48 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-19 0:54 ` Adam Thornton
2023-01-19 1:09 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-20 18:38 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-01-20 18:57 ` Dan Cross
2023-01-20 19:48 ` John Cowan
2023-01-20 20:04 ` Dan Cross
2023-01-20 19:08 ` Kevin Bowling
2023-01-19 1:17 ` Marc Donner
2023-01-19 1:26 ` Joseph Holsten
2023-01-20 15:53 ` Marc Donner
2023-01-19 14:45 ` Liam Proven
2023-01-19 15:05 ` Dan Cross
2023-01-19 16:59 ` Bakul Shah
2023-01-19 19:33 ` [TUHS] The death of general purpose computers, was - " Will Senn
2023-01-19 20:09 ` [TUHS] " segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-19 20:59 ` Rich Morin
2023-01-19 21:11 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-20 13:30 ` Liam Proven
2023-01-20 15:51 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-20 15:56 ` Rich Morin
2023-01-20 16:24 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-20 18:21 ` G. Branden Robinson
2023-01-20 18:33 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-18 18:58 ` [TUHS] " Steve Nickolas
2023-01-19 8:02 ` arnold
2023-01-19 15:04 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-19 15:20 ` Warner Losh
2023-01-19 15:23 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-19 16:40 ` Dan Cross
2023-01-19 16:58 ` Warner Losh
2023-01-19 23:16 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-01-20 0:37 ` Warner Losh
2023-01-20 1:22 ` Steve Nickolas
2023-01-19 17:02 ` Steve Nickolas
2023-01-19 17:19 ` Adam Thornton
2023-01-19 18:22 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-19 19:07 ` Kevin Bowling
2023-01-19 21:08 ` Joseph Holsten
2023-01-19 20:01 ` [TUHS] The era of general purpose computing (Re: " Bakul Shah
2023-01-19 22:23 ` [TUHS] " Luther Johnson
2023-01-20 1:10 ` John Cowan
2023-01-20 1:15 ` Luther Johnson
2023-01-21 18:12 ` arnold
2023-01-21 18:43 ` Luther Johnson
2023-01-19 22:29 ` Rich Salz
2023-01-19 22:39 ` Luther Johnson
2023-01-19 22:41 ` Luther Johnson
2023-01-19 22:40 ` Jon Steinhart
2023-01-19 23:24 ` segaloco via TUHS [this message]
2023-01-19 23:44 ` Rich Salz
2023-01-19 23:51 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-20 0:20 ` [TUHS] owner maintenance (Re: " Charles H Sauer (he/him)
2023-01-20 0:36 ` [TUHS] " Larry McVoy
2023-01-20 0:47 ` [TUHS] " Yeechang Lee
2023-01-20 0:55 ` George Michaelson
2023-01-20 1:05 ` Rich Salz
2023-01-20 1:10 ` George Michaelson
2023-01-20 2:27 ` Dan Cross
2023-01-18 21:20 ` [TUHS] " Theodore Ts'o
2023-01-18 21:27 ` Kevin Bowling
2023-01-19 2:17 ` Jim Carpenter
2023-01-19 21:15 ` Will Senn
2023-01-19 21:34 ` Drew Diver
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