From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 24901 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2022 23:18:58 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 20 Dec 2022 23:18:58 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D26C423CF; Wed, 21 Dec 2022 09:18:22 +1000 (AEST) Received: from sasl.smtp.pobox.com (pb-sasl1.pobox.com [64.147.108.66]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F1E06423C0 for ; Wed, 21 Dec 2022 09:18:18 +1000 (AEST) Received: from sasl.smtp.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-sasl1.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9C48EF5F; Tue, 20 Dec 2022 18:18:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from davida@pobox.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h= content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; s=sasl; bh= mOnLYh946nOJ25EFih/Qruz8nfBbhTVxlPm+BBpvImU=; b=Ihco7VlEP0HlC83F N800oIHJrDTCvNCiLMgS6oXY/QZP+g/xqXBWq5sFuCfPi9t50kZ7bo8tGBH/fzBp EUEaXEKHaQXykWI2Rlt7uXlZJe/PKH84c/bXw3geZ/amJd+Ze5KXGPaNbY4NloOH VlhV85iLuOu0qlgPWr9aMXIIQgw= Received: from pb-sasl1.nyi.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-sasl1.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 242058EF5D; Tue, 20 Dec 2022 18:18:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from davida@pobox.com) Received: from [192.168.86.129] (unknown [203.132.93.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-sasl1.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E0E858EF5C; Tue, 20 Dec 2022 18:18:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from davida@pobox.com) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.21\)) From: David Arnold In-Reply-To: <4942C729-FCE2-4075-9B1B-08CB7FC33813@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2022 10:18:12 +1100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20221220013323.GL4401@mcvoy.com> <4942C729-FCE2-4075-9B1B-08CB7FC33813@gmail.com> To: Adam Thornton X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.21) X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 953776A4-80BC-11ED-BCB4-38C66D9B1A4B-29049682!pb-sasl1.pobox.com Message-ID-Hash: JMSZG6G4WSWO4TEHJYP6R4RI5XEM7GWU X-Message-ID-Hash: JMSZG6G4WSWO4TEHJYP6R4RI5XEM7GWU X-MailFrom: davida@pobox.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: TUHS main list X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: UNIX on (not quite bare) System/370 List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: > On 20 Dec 2022, at 13:12, Adam Thornton wrote: >=20 > I mean all I really want for Christmas is a 64-bit v7 with TCP/IP = support, a screen editor, and SMP support. >=20 > The third one is a solved problem. The second one would not be that = hard to adapt, say, uIP 0.9, to v7. That first one would require some = work with C type sizes, but getting larger is easier than the reverse. = It's that last one. >=20 > Having said that...maybe what I really want is 64-bit 4.3 BSD? >=20 > I mean, just a Unix, without all the cruft of a modern Linux, but = which can actually take advantage of the resources of a modern machine. = I don't care about a desktop, or even a graphical environment, I don't = care about all the strange syscalls that are there to support particular = databases, I don't care much about being a virtualization host. I think xv6 does SMP? (param.h says NCPU =3D 8, at least). You=E2=80=99d need to add a network stack and a userland, but there are = options for those =E2=80=A6 d