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Ip=[103.225.21.115]; Helo=[exchange.superglobalmegacorp.local] X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: PU1APC01FT004.eop-APC01.prod.protection.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Anonymous X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: HybridOnPrem X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: TY2PR02MB4016 Subject: Re: [TUHS] A/UX [was Linux is on-topic] X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" ------=_Part_4343_2031426809.1595389468486 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 =20 =20 =20 =09 =09MachTen was interesting as heck to find. =C2=A0I ran it on a LC rece= ntly and it was so slow. =C2=A0I couldn=E2=80=99t work out how to build a l= inker, but I got a cross compiler (GCC) set your a sun-2 target and gas jus= t worked fine letting me use my Xeon for cross compiling on NFS, and just l= inking on the Mac. With only a 68020 it=E2=80=99s just too slow, and with no mmu it=E2=80=99s = just too unstable. =C2=A0 But the cool factor is awesome. Sadly my attempt at building gopher didn=E2=80=99t work so well. =09 =09 =20 =20 On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 8:33 PM +0800, "Derrik Walker v2.0" wrote: I used Mach10 and Later MkLinux as my UNIXy systems while in College before= I got my first Sun Workstation in the mid =E2=80=9990=E2=80=99s.=20 Interestingly enough. MkLinux was actually ported to Old World PowerMacs by= Apple and HP. I think they also made.a version PCs too. And Mach10 was interesting. Different. I also had Minix for the Mac, it w= orked much the same, as an app that sat onto of MacOS. =20 - Derrik=20 > On Jul 20, 2020, at 4:47 AM, arnold@skeeve.com wrote: >=20 > ISTR that A/UX was nothing special as a Unix. Am I failing to remember? >=20 > I had had a DMD 5620 at my job, and after I moved to a different place > and requested one, they graced me with a Macintosh. It could sort of > do multiple windows, but it was like having a piper cub after being > used to a 747. >=20 > Other interesting bits for the Mac to maybe recover would be Mach Ten, > which ran Mach on top of regular MacOS. (Talk about inverted pyramids...) > There was also a Mach/Linux that I think ran on the Mac at some point. >=20 > Arnold >=20 > Michael Parson wrote: >=20 >> On 2020-07-18 23:42, Grant Taylor via TUHS wrote: >>> On 7/18/20 9:46 PM, Wesley Parish wrote: >>>> I'd still love to have that running. >>>=20 >>> I think I've seen articles about people running it running >>> virtualization / emulation. >>=20 >> As far as I've been able to find, there is only one emulator that can=20 >> run A/UX, shoebill[0]. >>=20 >> I've got a Mac Quadra 950 with a Workgroup Server 95 card in it in the= =20 >> garage that I've been planning on someday trying to get A/UX running on,= =20 >> but haven't found enough round tuits. >>=20 >> Maybe if someone could rip the 680[34]0+MMU bits out of Win/FS-UAE=20 >> (Amiga emulator) and patch them into Basilisk II (Mac 68K emulator),=20 >> A/UX might work there. >>=20 >> --=20 >> Michael Parson >> Pflugerville, TX >> KF5LGQ >>=20 >> [0] https://github.com/emaculation/shoebill >=20 ------=_Part_4343_2031426809.1595389468486 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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MachTen was interesting as heck to find.  I ran it on a LC= recently and it was so slow.  I couldn=E2=80=99t work out how to buil= d a linker, but I got a cross compiler (GCC) set your a sun-2 target and ga= s just worked fine letting me use my Xeon for cross compiling on NFS, and j= ust linking on the Mac.

Wi= th only a 68020 it=E2=80=99s just too slow, and with no mmu it=E2=80=99s ju= st too unstable.   But the cool factor is awesome.

Sadly my attempt at building gopher didn=E2= =80=99t work so well.
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On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 8:33 PM +0800, "Derrik W= alker v2.0" <dwalker@doomd.net> wrote:

I used Mach10 and Later MkLinux as my UNIXy systems while in College b=
efore I got my first Sun Workstation in the mid =E2=80=9990=E2=80=99s.=20

Interestingly enough. MkLinux was actually ported to Old World PowerMacs by=
 Apple and HP.  I think they also made.a version PCs too.

And Mach10 was interesting.  Different.  I also had Minix for the Mac, it w=
orked much the same, as an app that sat onto of MacOS. =20

- Derrik=20

> On Jul 20, 2020, at 4:47 AM, arnold@skeeve.com wrote:
>=20
> ISTR that A/UX was nothing special as a Unix.  Am I failing to remembe=
r?
>=20
> I had had a DMD 5620 at my job, and after I moved to a different place
> and requested one, they graced me with a Macintosh.  It could sort of
> do multiple windows, but it was like having a piper cub after being
> used to a 747.
>=20
> Other interesting bits for the Mac to maybe recover would be Mach Ten,
> which ran Mach on top of regular MacOS. (Talk about inverted pyramids.=
..)
> There was also a Mach/Linux that I think ran on the Mac at some point.
>=20
> Arnold
>=20
> Michael Parson  wrote:
>=20
>> On 2020-07-18 23:42, Grant Taylor via TUHS wrote:
>>> On 7/18/20 9:46 PM, Wesley Parish wrote:
>>>> I'd still love to have that running.
>>>=20
>>> I think I've seen articles about people running it running
>>> virtualization / emulation.
>>=20
>> As far as I've been able to find, there is only one emulator that =
can=20
>> run A/UX, shoebill[0].
>>=20
>> I've got a Mac Quadra 950 with a Workgroup Server 95 card in it in=
 the=20
>> garage that I've been planning on someday trying to get A/UX runni=
ng on,=20
>> but haven't found enough round tuits.
>>=20
>> Maybe if someone could rip the 680[34]0+MMU bits out of Win/FS-UAE=
=20
>> (Amiga emulator) and patch them into Basilisk II (Mac 68K emulator=
),=20
>> A/UX might work there.
>>=20
>> --=20
>> Michael Parson
>> Pflugerville, TX
>> KF5LGQ
>>=20
>> [0] https://github.com/emaculation/shoebill
>=20
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