From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 680f37b5 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2020 19:36:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id D33079BCD1; Wed, 8 Jan 2020 05:36:17 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 152CD9BCA8; Wed, 8 Jan 2020 05:35:51 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="P5r4AK2m"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 3978C9BCA8; Wed, 8 Jan 2020 05:35:50 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qv1-f43.google.com (mail-qv1-f43.google.com [209.85.219.43]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BCEFB945FC for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2020 05:35:49 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qv1-f43.google.com with SMTP id dc14so366425qvb.9 for ; Tue, 07 Jan 2020 11:35:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=g5db449PamQ0aUgd46OeOfUeOvp1uJT2aUBEBR9+1zc=; b=P5r4AK2mdmFc8EqQzNHPoa7AmUrxhjn9O3Jvyep9hIUle3dshlisvp6HDoYKQ5NoX/ 4lWnvps3Kq2rqf1rYuPTwM7BBbviMFUwd598AOa0zfZKOr++6RbFlacgK80VYw54OXJx LVdMEQU8iFsd98HiAz4TZ17B/HBmVR+oX7voGJCZdu+rHA8C8Nr6gQkyKmZtKe6dH8+O ms8VencsEmaOYw3iv12ZQOtc5mQo6Magd7q6rHLu5+QdxeAkzPH5incVzUTHtV6ljAYI l33fV4WoRB28GR3ZJqq0F2QVo074fPpE85sImI6XMwiR0+9qLuJ4g0Y3IqrF9s6caKxT sFEQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=g5db449PamQ0aUgd46OeOfUeOvp1uJT2aUBEBR9+1zc=; b=JUg0jpu7pkM7mKiN7J9oKxN4x4F++pnmc/2OCN1C3T+a3/Bba+UUmjyNPva5SpgNAf taylt3cxVH+Mtk/redF18Xd3SU4SJ9tjd0LVd1xcnkV4wCzBvcVm7J8LoBn/081xNWls EXV6KjyROh7Am2QQMFYA/Bf1cfcLky9M2XdvyYQyKYxztWhYuaGQMD8bekHSzOPzobrb ijNJyHNzXFC25BSS8CShCRt85dd79nQXv4EWkKmmO76WnNook6TCeNP4OYUpQwl6AgQd ijmB85KoyrtRQf9icokM8TJBk2FYvgARijSUviso1AzVWzaVWZLVBJ5+XOZQBNcVMOOu q7dQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWdfG/UmuUIRqVhFKyGYCJTMZQcuUXD8kGLhIlARf6+j6XAxrwR eIKvYpO6PNJnQPz5gJ0mYZVikTAL9w0QvR1mwuY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqw3DMLedPm5Eu5lIkgPJiNPb5ogfhlWlPuuNvo+M0o9LXWz0E0BQlwd0+n/qjGOnlMhACnbty46VdQJtyUG+U0= X-Received: by 2002:a0c:eac7:: with SMTP id y7mr1015897qvp.86.1578425748905; Tue, 07 Jan 2020 11:35:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202001070231.0072ViZp123105@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> <17372ca2-0498-4320-a933-5ac522eabb2b@localhost> In-Reply-To: <17372ca2-0498-4320-a933-5ac522eabb2b@localhost> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Rodrigo_G=2E_L=C3=B3pez?= Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 20:35:36 +0100 Message-ID: To: ullbeking@andrewnesbit.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000116393059b91e2d7" Subject: Re: [TUHS] screen editors X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000116393059b91e2d7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" i like to use it natively as much as possible, especially the 9front edition with its usability (e.g. mouse chording) improvements. if that is not possible, i drawterm into some cpu or a local vm where i can get a little environment to work with whatever is at /mnt/term. it also has a powerful command language and structural regular expressions, and you can use your favorite unix tools on any piece of text you please. it has given me the best text editing and programming experience i've ever had. -rodri On Tue, Jan 7, 2020, 10:50 AM wrote: > > 7 Jan 2020 02:32:11 Doug McIlroy : > > Sam was the first screen editor that I deemed worthwhile, and I > > still use it today. > > I would like to experiment with Sam and run it on various *nix operating > systems. There seems to be many ports. > > Do I need to install some kind of Plan 9 emulation layer (in user space), > which Sam builds and runs on? Obviously I'm referring to Russ Cox's > libraries and user space tools. > > Is it necessary to have a p9 environment to gain the most advantage of a > tool like Sam? Or, is it possible for it still to function well as a > transplant in a new environment such as *nix? > > In that second case, what are the well ported versions of Sam that build > and run directly on the target environment? > > Andrew > > > --000000000000116393059b91e2d7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
i like to use it natively as much as possible, espec= ially the 9front edition with its usability (e.g. mouse chording) improveme= nts. if that is not possible, i drawterm into some cpu or a local vm where = i can get a little environment to work with whatever is at /mnt/term.
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it also has a powerful comman= d language and structural regular expressions, and you can use your favorit= e unix tools on any piece of text you please.

it has given me the best text editing and programming= experience i've ever had.


-rodri


On Tue, Jan 7, 2020= , 10:50 AM <ullbeking@and= rewnesbit.org> wrote:

7 Jan 2020 02:32:11 Doug McIlroy :
> Sam was the first screen editor that I deemed worthwhile, and I
> still use it today.

I would like to experiment with Sam and run it on various *nix operating sy= stems. There seems to be many ports.

Do I need to install some kind of Plan 9 emulation layer (in user space), w= hich Sam builds and runs on? Obviously I'm referring to Russ Cox's = libraries and user space tools.

Is it necessary to have a p9 environment to gain the most advantage of a to= ol like Sam? Or, is it possible for it still to function well as a transpla= nt in a new environment such as *nix?

In that second case, what are the well ported versions of Sam that build an= d run directly on the target environment?

Andrew


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