From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 20267 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2022 23:55:12 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 6 Jul 2022 23:55:12 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C1140B90; Thu, 7 Jul 2022 09:55:04 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-io1-f48.google.com (mail-io1-f48.google.com [209.85.166.48]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 586BC4096C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2022 09:55:00 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-io1-f48.google.com with SMTP id m13so15482783ioj.0 for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2022 16:55:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=S9Qvbk0QCvuVlswWl8dJpIpiJO05T0BicfWkOTJJJA0=; b=Bbz3xRwIsbPjUEfvw1TNnuC5z2fsv5hWlXKUmLbnmWsvDsOGHpYvVKSsExmzrcvxBI n8ymJRbSDrNSPDY4cluqxEL2LybR+Veg0POS3bpxj/fHxTZqGPKz3ZT0tairvRKCteoy 8A4wqxqnZr4x2c7dcZs4CpDRP9hrOTf6/laTdZF8WH2RFdXqk/3MxHSm6qoS8sTpGJl5 u0GZp3E+3rYpOCnl3yODMBJsvqIzApV9MzpPHodeaOkoo0Iz3TbCXS2WCXU4K8XMG0rW NCgHAbG3MuokQqSKdbk3nQP/PxrnTHbPRmEuqpxRQ1TrLy4BGQC5tU+FcxzG8RSupuld cvdQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=S9Qvbk0QCvuVlswWl8dJpIpiJO05T0BicfWkOTJJJA0=; b=Yh6Eh7By9j/8cbjXEpGECV7SJAii8fOfefCQfE8fVtJCJnXE/StDGLPBeG/VCP0j8t N+gJLha74kCJxpIC6QfjXXXSaJIaxpN1o1wwTdKN/aFSgsQ6RzM69XqyKjIp/pSZGQPR d+Qvun/+9VJRP0l0h6CCPtQaoNhT39TH6E575kT7e5bZ1BOmRLNaOnYXIs0JSMQ/vgnf 2w7h8Dmabjh09RhKRLiuZ/h/n+csQbM+ybFWjMFEbjoP0IAfDHXa9285ru2dL1/6iTHb BlavrJJgOFCQ74OF/ZmMd/HgRgEuMFftlnPJsEvHU9YcNYMn+KkDGZqBJYCrxr1q3hsj 3xJQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora8miUtWcrCC4uD8kBpfnmuMBOqC+b75WGl4ZHEh0JGbh4iHUiTx 6Ml8+JonPg19ZcqxymbxXfHsLi88YmUG1fCXg0TRamDk X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1u2ntPBQTWQUcVJBVXE9XpQROzz6jy7Jnl6ClaX8aYjSZujgA5ze99C9C79tB1i/bB0yJB+XbN2aQ2l1yf2E/o= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6638:3d0b:b0:339:f26f:96c0 with SMTP id cl11-20020a0566383d0b00b00339f26f96c0mr26794071jab.300.1657151639696; Wed, 06 Jul 2022 16:53:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202207061816.266IGVAA002244@freefriends.org> In-Reply-To: <202207061816.266IGVAA002244@freefriends.org> From: Skip Tavakkolian Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2022 16:53:47 -0700 Message-ID: To: arnold@skeeve.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000d2ba8f05e32baea2" Message-ID-Hash: 4TJEI2MMFGIFI7GM5VLYTHX3XZXIWWXB X-Message-ID-Hash: 4TJEI2MMFGIFI7GM5VLYTHX3XZXIWWXB X-MailFrom: fariborz.t@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Stuart Feldman's EFL List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000d2ba8f05e32baea2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" In mid 80's I worked at Microrim for a short time. There was an effort to port R:Base (in Fortran) to Unix (especially Xenix). There was a Fortune Systems 32:16 machine running For:Pro (v7). It had EFL. I vaguely recall a discussion about going the Fortran->EFL->(might be easier to port to)->C route. I was there to help, but was a greenhorn and way in over my head. On Wed, Jul 6, 2022, 11:17 AM wrote: > Hi. > > EFL was definitely a part of BSD Unix. But I don't see it in the V7 > stuff in the TUHS archives. When did it first appear? Was it part > of 32V and I should look there? > > It is definitely in the V8 and V10 stuff. > > Did anyone actually use it? I have the feeling that ratfor had already > caught on and spread far, and that it met people's needs, and so > EFL didn't really catch on that much, even though it provided more > features on top of Fortran. > > Thanks, > > Arnold > --000000000000d2ba8f05e32baea2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In mid 80's I worked at Microrim for a short time. Th= ere was an effort to port R:Base (in Fortran) to Unix (especially Xenix). T= here was a Fortune Systems 32:16 machine running For:Pro (v7). It had EFL. = I vaguely recall a discussion about going the Fortran->EFL->(might be= easier to port to)->C route. I was there to help, but was a greenhorn a= nd way in over my head.

On Wed, Jul 6, 2022, 11:17 AM <arnold@skeeve.com> wrote:
Hi.

EFL was definitely a part of BSD Unix.=C2=A0 But I don't see it in the = V7
stuff in the TUHS archives.=C2=A0 When did it first appear?=C2=A0 Was it pa= rt
of 32V and I should look there?

It is definitely in the V8 and V10 stuff.

Did anyone actually use it?=C2=A0 I have the feeling that ratfor had alread= y
caught on and spread far, and that it met people's needs, and so
EFL didn't really catch on that much, even though it provided more
features on top of Fortran.

Thanks,

Arnold
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