[TUHS] Plan 9/Inferno Manuals?

[TUHS] Plan 9/Inferno Manuals?

[Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan]

Anyone got Plan 9 4th edition manuals or Inferno Manuals? I will be
interested to buy them. Vitanuova used to sell them, but their payment
system is down for years now and has been brought up to Charles many
times, but it seem to be still down, so there is no way to buy it from
them.

-- 
  Ramakrishnan

[TUHS] Plan 9/Inferno Manuals?

[David du Colombier]

> Anyone got Plan 9 4th edition manuals or Inferno Manuals? I will be
> interested to buy them. Vitanuova used to sell them, but their payment
> system is down for years now and has been brought up to Charles many
> times, but it seem to be still down, so there is no way to buy it from
> them.

Alternatively, you could still generate the two up-to-date PDF manuals
from /sys/doc and print them on one of the print-on-demand services.
You won't get the nice colorful covers though.

-- 
David du Colombier

[TUHS] Plan 9/Inferno Manuals?

[Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan]

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 3:04 PM, David du Colombier <0intro at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Anyone got Plan 9 4th edition manuals or Inferno Manuals? I will be
>> interested to buy them. Vitanuova used to sell them, but their payment
>> system is down for years now and has been brought up to Charles many
>> times, but it seem to be still down, so there is no way to buy it from
>> them.
>
> Alternatively, you could still generate the two up-to-date PDF manuals
> from /sys/doc and print them on one of the print-on-demand services.

yes, I have PDFs of them. I just wanted to know if anyone has original
copies for sale.

-- 
  Ramakrishnan

[TUHS] Plan 9/Inferno Manuals?

[Dave Horsfall]

On Wed, 17 Jun 2015, David du Colombier wrote:

> Alternatively, you could still generate the two up-to-date PDF manuals 
> from /sys/doc and print them on one of the print-on-demand services. You 
> won't get the nice colorful covers though.

And you won't even get that far if the material contains the dreaded word 
"Copyright"...

Yeah, it's freely redistributable. "But Sir, it's copyright!"

KwikCopy, I'm looking at you.

-- 
Dave Horsfall DTM (VK2KFU)   "Those who don't understand security will suffer."
http://www.horsfall.org/spam.html (and check the home page whilst you're there)

[TUHS] Plan 9/Inferno Manuals?

[Aram Hăvărneanu]

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On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 7:10 PM, Dave Horsfall <dave at horsfall.org> wrote:
> And you won't even get that far if the material contains the dreaded word
> "Copyright"...

Plan 9 (including the manuals) is licensed under the LPL, which is
quite similar to the MIT license.

-- 
Aram Hăvărneanu

[TUHS] Plan 9/Inferno Manuals?

[Kurt H Maier]

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Quoting Aram Hăvărneanu <aram.h at mgk.ro>:

> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 7:10 PM, Dave Horsfall <dave at horsfall.org> wrote:
>> And you won't even get that far if the material contains the dreaded word
>> "Copyright"...
>
> Plan 9 (including the manuals) is licensed under the LPL, which is
> quite similar to the MIT license.

These subtleties are lost on the people who work the front desk at print
shops.  Anti-litigation practices indicate that anything with any kind of
copyright verbage is verboten.

khm

[TUHS] Plan 9/Inferno Manuals?

[random832]

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On Thu, Jun 18, 2015, at 13:27, Aram Hăvărneanu wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 7:10 PM, Dave Horsfall <dave at horsfall.org> wrote:
> > And you won't even get that far if the material contains the dreaded word
> > "Copyright"...
> 
> Plan 9 (including the manuals) is licensed under the LPL, which is
> quite similar to the MIT license.

The point is that a free license doesn't matter if the guy at the print
shop can't read.

[TUHS] Plan 9/Inferno Manuals?

[Nemo]

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On 18 June 2015 at 13:32, Kurt H Maier <khm at sciops.net> wrote:
> Quoting Aram Hăvărneanu <aram.h at mgk.ro>:
>
>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 7:10 PM, Dave Horsfall <dave at horsfall.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> And you won't even get that far if the material contains the dreaded word
>>> "Copyright"...
>>
>>
>> Plan 9 (including the manuals) is licensed under the LPL, which is
>> quite similar to the MIT license.
>
>
> These subtleties are lost on the people who work the front desk at print
> shops.  Anti-litigation practices indicate that anything with any kind of
> copyright verbage is verboten.

Indeed.  Some years ago, we were hosting a standards meeting and went
out to copy the latest draft.  The first shop would not touch it
because it said copyright -- despite the author being present with
identification.  Kinko's, as it was then, copied it after we signed a
waiver.

N.