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From: Tom Lyon via TUHS <tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
To: Ron Natalie <ron@ronnatalie.com>
Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Old screen editors
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 17:22:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAOGWQj7NhjwO9pQNGOGOnHSLYt+fQm0B_9UNCuTZe5NUpSC+Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <em3a43efbb-54b9-4e84-bfb0-d39121925111@alien>

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Yes, awful terminals demand different editors.

At Amdahl, we had nothing but 3270s for the mainframe UNIX.
Dan Walsh wrote an editor - "ned" - which allowed full screen editing. It
was actually quite nice, considering. It allowed any "ed" commands in a
command line, but ISPF-like block editing elsewhere.

I wrote the 3270 driver which allowed "almost" full duplex interaction with
UNIX.

On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 2:47 PM Ron Natalie <ron@ronnatalie.com> wrote:

> Was it one of the awful Pukin-Elmer terminals.  I hated those things.
>
> Then there was the Rand/Interactive Systems INed.   We were stuck using
> that when I worked for Martin.
>
> I never learned vi.   If there is no EMACS-like thing on the machine,
> then I just use ed (sometimes I can get by with ex/vi in line mode).
>
> The funniest editor story I have is one day I'm working at Martin.
> Having actually heard of UNIX before (let alone having done kernel and
> other work) I was sort of the in house expert.   One day one of my
> coworkers calls out to me:
>
> "What's all this Bell System crud in the editor?"
>
> I'm thinking, well, it's all Bell System crud.   What specifically are
> we talking about.   I walk around to see his terminal and find he has
> been typing 1 repeatedly to the shell prompt invoking our /usr/bin/1
> that said "One Bell System, It Works."
>
> After that I modded the program to say "You're not in the editor,
> Bernie."
>
> It was almost as much fun as putting "You might have mail." in motd.
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Steve Simon" <steve@quintile.net>
> To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org
> Sent: 3/29/2022 3:09:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [TUHS] Old screen editors
>
> >
> >I never really used it but i do remember an editor called le on the v7
> interdata/Perkin Elmer i used at Leeds poly.
> >
> >I read electronics and we  all used vi, the computer science people at a
> different campus used le on their Interdata; no idea why.
> >
> >anyone any background on le? ihave not seen sight nor sound of it since.
> >
> >-Steve
> >
>
>

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- Tom

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-30  0:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-29 19:09 Steve Simon
2022-03-29 21:46 ` Ron Natalie
2022-03-30  0:22   ` Tom Lyon via TUHS [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-03-29 20:40 Noel Chiappa
2022-03-29 20:50 ` Phil Budne
2022-03-29 20:54 ` Ron Natalie
2022-03-30  5:41   ` Lars Brinkhoff
2022-03-30  7:50     ` Thomas Paulsen
2022-03-29 18:35 Noel Chiappa
2022-03-29 10:39 Noel Chiappa
2022-03-29 11:05 ` Rob Pike
2022-03-29 13:37 ` Clem Cole
2022-03-29 15:43 ` Angelo Papenhoff
2022-03-30  5:36 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2022-03-28 21:03 [TUHS] Alive? Warren Toomey via TUHS
2022-03-28 22:24 ` Bakul Shah
2022-03-28 23:23   ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2022-03-29  0:00     ` Bakul Shah
2022-03-29  0:31       ` [TUHS] Old screen editors Lawrence Stewart
2022-03-29  0:53         ` Charles H Sauer (he/him)
2022-03-29  8:29           ` Rob Pike
2022-03-29 13:24             ` Clem Cole
2022-03-29  8:34           ` George Michaelson
2022-03-29  8:40             ` arnold
2022-03-29 13:45               ` Clem Cole
2022-03-29 14:31                 ` Andrew Hume
2022-03-29 14:35                   ` arnold
2022-03-29 14:42                     ` Andrew Hume
2022-03-30  0:59                       ` Mary Ann Horton
2022-03-30  5:11                       ` arnold
2022-03-29 12:45         ` Thomas Paulsen
2022-03-29 13:26           ` arnold
2022-03-30  8:37         ` Ralph Corderoy

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