Yes, awful terminals demand different editors. At Amdahl, we had nothing but 3270s for the mainframe UNIX. Dan Walsh wrote an editor - "ned" - which allowed full screen editing. It was actually quite nice, considering. It allowed any "ed" commands in a command line, but ISPF-like block editing elsewhere. I wrote the 3270 driver which allowed "almost" full duplex interaction with UNIX. On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 2:47 PM Ron Natalie wrote: > Was it one of the awful Pukin-Elmer terminals. I hated those things. > > Then there was the Rand/Interactive Systems INed. We were stuck using > that when I worked for Martin. > > I never learned vi. If there is no EMACS-like thing on the machine, > then I just use ed (sometimes I can get by with ex/vi in line mode). > > The funniest editor story I have is one day I'm working at Martin. > Having actually heard of UNIX before (let alone having done kernel and > other work) I was sort of the in house expert. One day one of my > coworkers calls out to me: > > "What's all this Bell System crud in the editor?" > > I'm thinking, well, it's all Bell System crud. What specifically are > we talking about. I walk around to see his terminal and find he has > been typing 1 repeatedly to the shell prompt invoking our /usr/bin/1 > that said "One Bell System, It Works." > > After that I modded the program to say "You're not in the editor, > Bernie." > > It was almost as much fun as putting "You might have mail." in motd. > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Steve Simon" > To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org > Sent: 3/29/2022 3:09:52 PM > Subject: Re: [TUHS] Old screen editors > > > > >I never really used it but i do remember an editor called le on the v7 > interdata/Perkin Elmer i used at Leeds poly. > > > >I read electronics and we all used vi, the computer science people at a > different campus used le on their Interdata; no idea why. > > > >anyone any background on le? ihave not seen sight nor sound of it since. > > > >-Steve > > > > -- - Tom