From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [IPv6:2600:3c01:e000:146::1]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14B3528308 for ; Mon, 20 May 2024 23:47:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4257D43B73; Tue, 21 May 2024 07:47:06 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-lj1-x22d.google.com (mail-lj1-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::22d]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CCAEE43B72 for ; Tue, 21 May 2024 07:47:01 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-lj1-x22d.google.com with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2e73359b900so8291261fa.2 for ; Mon, 20 May 2024 14:47:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dartmouth.edu; s=google1; t=1716241620; x=1716846420; darn=tuhs.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=4b+1NRLAPxc7co3t6Ww2vJNZVWlsACspaaHqgC8zCOU=; b=oTgtr/aB4kNJUydWTnrob1vpAOUIyuLCyLEcODaa7JJVPbH2LcYalm6jdEqp1sZqxT T2O8/AbggMpsVY+lK64XxJWbphm89JrEhVoGu9qpcfT0neKSLJafLDNYsuym3OZoBuCF 7DIDDFQ91YMy89ORsHCmZIbgtP1RDaHdOpKUcnSkoMOF2wtjJ6FWOoI4NJ7g+ZeVWGIg dLCetDxt8qEoTFrE6Z8uaPjD809y/L9K1NTXO0d1wK1+zT/HysORMApvkurQsEfAFXxF bUpUSjMh8QHKE6E2KHjEQraxxSs2TVC1XqM2D1AflrY+P6pOCpMKlSkVrtUnspddXE8H AsCQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1716241620; x=1716846420; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=4b+1NRLAPxc7co3t6Ww2vJNZVWlsACspaaHqgC8zCOU=; b=Xt/biPt7Q3akrmdYYN2lYPiI6KeaCs+Vksys3cX7zyHw/V6qJOWV2/OZXBufbyEd4G uzUP+ejY6wxVTz1ABtjmCNiBznAm+ioybygFYUq6JFkzt5evaoLNgSBfOYaMJVef2mdg ukMD4NlvPoafvL30HBRNvoe9x9cIOgpst4LhLXXdBNt0rp+sDO2Z+wgNFbgng27G6t39 qy30c4fq3OLfnn1wccqdF/CmBt1+NjOIO7eVLBVbXzG9H85X5U52Lo4ESYjrDQkoM4di wiB+/wS1IWi8CWCXC8Xae75fan3kFApTJXS9waCxw9mTbQBgLvj/krTmzHSmbCOOuFJ3 y8Pw== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCXjUGFyx3EHBgPCer6S3hchRESYhzqfeEhknfd2sLZ5Udshx72Yz+dwNotHGQ4BTHZxAvdYKWLr5xAXDdMI X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxYfNkrRK91xyXwNoUROfk4ar7kyf8Q11w+rNpUqBK7bx8+dR8y QC0ayHsCMlcP87d+U13YPAvmWYEgwIZjaCgYc6TOejkp3MDw830mM6RfrFVZOF5DXfpkTuYXJCv Vmn8tcusGVHyuc2pRZimbSEJRU0o5A1RZDiCh+BUkCJ4aFd2wlg0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFF73od20a/qKpvZjvTnrz91LLiplI+4RJ8c8q0g5cdrCqkngqfUrAmrGeqG5OIG+hT5qcUNXSWwwlH5/t8feE= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:3194:b0:523:b19a:25fe with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-523b19a28a8mr11597992e87.6.1716241619999; Mon, 20 May 2024 14:46:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20240520200226.80F428B9493A@ary.qy> <20240520201122.GC27662@mcvoy.com> <20240520211438.GF27662@mcvoy.com> In-Reply-To: <20240520211438.GF27662@mcvoy.com> From: Ben Kallus Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 17:46:48 -0400 Message-ID: To: Larry McVoy Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-ID-Hash: 2D45KYWJQSN3OK2MMEVAL5BR4EKRHKKV X-Message-ID-Hash: 2D45KYWJQSN3OK2MMEVAL5BR4EKRHKKV X-MailFrom: benjamin.p.kallus.gr@dartmouth.edu X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: John Levine , tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: OT: LangSec (Re: A fuzzy awk.) List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: My point was that, regardless of Postel's original intent, many people have interpreted his principle to mean that accepting garbage is good. *This* interpretation is incompatible with LangSec. See RFC 9413 for an exploration of the many interpretations of Postel's principle. -Ben