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From: Paul Winalski <paul.winalski@gmail.com>
To: Jim Geist <velocityboy@gmail.com>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>,
	Noel Chiappa <jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Memory management in Dennis Ritchie's C Compiler
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 14:48:52 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABH=_VQ98bw1nj3nkL0RF3ATX=Sy3=Bqg1Lt+tY-XYH6Kep8Dw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJohCK+aqCKiYNALrJAdPv=q=+uw8++0oCMR_O10kUJ62m=tVA@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/17/20, Jim Geist <velocityboy@gmail.com> wrote:
> You beat me to my response. malloc/free are great for long running
> processes where memory can't just infinitely increase, but there's a ton of
> stuff in a compiler -- types, expressions, symbols -- that survives until
> the process exits. There's benefit in both space (because you don't have to
> add headers to the blocks as malloc() does, so free() can work) and time to
> doing it this way.
>
The other issue is locality of reference.  Data structures such as the
symbol table get built up gradually as the compilation processes each
routine.  Typically the symbol table is stored as a hash table where
each entry is a pointer to the actual symbol table entry data
structure.  If you malloc() each symbol table entry individually, they
can end up scattered all over the virtual address space.  It's not as
important these days, when main memory is measured in gigabytes, but
back when machines had less real memory, the scattering could lead to
excessive page faulting.  Much better to allocate symbol table entries
in chunks, and the easiest way to do that is to give the symbol table
its own mini-heap.

VMS implemented the mini-heap concept (VMS calls them zones) back in
its first release in 1978.  Dave Cutler took the concept to Windows NT
(Microsoft calls them private heaps).  Lots of applications have built
their own mini-heap system on top of sbrk(), but has a library of
mini-heap-type APIs ever been distributed on Unix?

-Paul W.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-17 18:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-17  2:02 Noel Chiappa
2020-08-17 18:02 ` Paul Winalski
2020-08-17 18:13   ` Jim Geist
2020-08-17 18:48     ` Paul Winalski [this message]
2020-08-17 19:08       ` Jim Geist
2020-08-17 19:28         ` Paul Winalski
2020-08-17 19:35           ` Jim Geist
2020-08-17 19:41             ` Richard Salz
2020-08-17 23:40               ` Steffen Nurpmeso
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-08-27  8:37 Paul Ruizendaal
2020-08-26 15:59 Noel Chiappa
2020-08-26 16:09 ` Warner Losh
2020-08-26 19:13   ` Clem Cole
2020-08-26 16:14 ` Jim Geist
2020-08-26 17:31 ` John Cowan
2020-08-26 13:24 Doug McIlroy
2020-08-26 15:41 ` John Cowan
2020-08-25  9:36 Steve Simon
2020-08-17 22:32 Norman Wilson
2020-08-17 22:55 ` Bakul Shah
2020-08-17 23:12 ` Chet Ramey
2020-08-18  6:33 ` arnold
2020-08-17 19:51 Noel Chiappa
2020-08-17 19:27 Noel Chiappa
2020-08-17 19:30 ` Larry McVoy
2020-08-17 19:44   ` Dan Halbert
2020-08-17 19:50   ` Paul Winalski
2020-08-17 22:05     ` Arthur Krewat
2020-08-18  0:52 ` Rob Gingell
2020-08-15 21:50 Dibyendu Majumdar
2020-08-16 15:20 ` arnold
2020-08-16 15:27   ` Jim Geist
2020-08-17 16:13 ` Dan Cross
2020-08-17 20:16   ` Dibyendu Majumdar
2020-08-17 20:34     ` Paul Winalski
2020-08-17 20:43       ` Dibyendu Majumdar
2020-08-17 21:05         ` Warner Losh
2020-08-17 22:47         ` Dave Horsfall
2020-08-17 23:06           ` Nemo Nusquam
2020-08-17 21:29     ` Dibyendu Majumdar
2020-08-24 15:58     ` Dan Cross
2020-08-24 17:08       ` John Cowan
2020-08-24 17:15         ` Clem Cole
2020-08-24 17:24           ` Clem Cole
2020-08-24 17:20         ` Dan Cross
2020-08-25 23:06           ` Arthur Krewat

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