From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 11356 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2022 23:51:18 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 16 Feb 2022 23:51:18 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id CF06F9D3BC; Thu, 17 Feb 2022 09:51:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F3E29D036; Thu, 17 Feb 2022 09:49:07 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="nYOKH1sL"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 863E89D036; Thu, 17 Feb 2022 09:49:04 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vs1-f41.google.com (mail-vs1-f41.google.com [209.85.217.41]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 879399D035 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2022 09:49:03 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vs1-f41.google.com with SMTP id y4so4329845vsd.11 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2022 15:49:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=crXcaOFDB+vWgXDxMwVjvTKQ4ogr4jatpiOr6Dbl+mY=; b=nYOKH1sLIoej+Q32uUvXfWNHu+al9d3VRaoz/7hDJgItWyIWgEVU5dB0vLoCCSpWl1 zisMKItWibx1M4FU2teFENMkhi54H6U85bBwMM0NwMDy8kmoP4i0/jCxWgAiqgLr7Ges zKIFns/sROKTkvu61maKf5Cv6sXsZnxihpQ6cCiPrbU8a1lLd/jcsRwUbaInwyCqecXF +namJY4Jea1jZI4Rmo5q4gY0dcAFJnl6HHToRAgzN/n9j8EwGCUkbdCed8uLofjlYnZd A5YxYpWegDx9mpi/C2fn1v89Md65dVV/l107weiPxSF8EQVhMNXRSguBhYPuh9hKuMTc XnTw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=crXcaOFDB+vWgXDxMwVjvTKQ4ogr4jatpiOr6Dbl+mY=; b=3SWAEFrPZBGpPNEZjTU25CTkRZNb9WQxv6hkCv5TFYcNENKQ9iCSgH7cnPGM5fShvl rNfiKIHOE34fJDOOwpm/b4K/GV2VctGufYYchEd4/MFNcogh97EDKTksY+cyeXkqQRCn 7ujeAGd1mDCXNfbcF2FrdnKLZSFZv2+fsz+aJE0woNAJ6ZdnmW2KGFE01YO7G0othMio qqi8kvgHrpSG4BKiCpzk8eHRh1/ZoboKKaFzNJBEevMlQAUvhwoR+Kz79NOhT+q/e7ps dqHWSanjHfmWXsQr6u/4ZQ1rOgdreNK1iK+Vu4Y2hdvZchu73bQb+0ko3ZWQFoEKEZyb ZV1g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM53292uEiyNguDzqBHVHxERngQ5MhCWjeTr8mlCRR2GSYt6BBhCGt SfXo79Ka2emguu4M4PkPfn59PylwS2bqAxGhNxU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwlWgusjnMXC5F4Rb+/BlilyQXIiZU5raorvQMSbz6ouYEx+fXbmLu9Jjr48E8Cd5qXUt+TkgooidtzoP6ByoM= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6102:304f:b0:310:f938:2b9d with SMTP id w15-20020a056102304f00b00310f9382b9dmr209869vsa.28.1645055342513; Wed, 16 Feb 2022 15:49:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ab0:389:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Feb 2022 15:49:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <202202160754.21G7sbUa011318@freefriends.org> <1nKFRN-4IZ-00@marmaro.de> <8735kig8vb.fsf@vuxu.org> <20220216224254.GA3040@mcvoy.com> From: Paul Winalski Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 18:49:01 -0500 Message-ID: To: Clem Cole Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Lorinda Cherry X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 2/16/22, Clem Cole wrote: > Marketing people in particular like to grab a single number for 'goodness' > just to try to show mine is better than yours (my current disgust has been > the clock rate of the processors which sadly, my employer was one of the > worst in using as a figure of merit). > That, and instructions/second. The IBM S/370 model 158 was a true 1 MIPS machine. The VAX-11/780 executed about 500 KIPS. But the 11/780 and the model 158 were almost a dead heat when it came to the execution speed of real world applications. Why? Mainly because the VAX architecture was a lot CISC-ier than S/370, which was basically a load/compute/store architecture. The VAX got a lot more done with each individeual instruction than the S/370. -Paul W.