From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 27a26144 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2019 20:28:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 2ECD7A1F2A; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 06:28:08 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC313A1C5C; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 06:27:47 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="emcVlfQ9"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 3C8AFA1C5C; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 06:27:45 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-lf1-f67.google.com (mail-lf1-f67.google.com [209.85.167.67]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7776BA1C50 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 06:27:44 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-lf1-f67.google.com with SMTP id a8so2591487lfk.5 for ; Sat, 05 Jan 2019 12:27:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=xU3LWZSkvPGcsKXk5GFzSynOUKgX/jEgfAvoKyGSmFs=; b=emcVlfQ9m8Ria0Iv20uCZ97A+WvgJl62agi0mZL9W4iYFX4v8mhpBZjHKlACADbepT Mx9Jvzn3qY6Pgld/JkV63d1txWnNWXWfPI9nKeWsruwU+yJ8HGHMG3hqxNvST70H9rLh noXWA2YAhv4Cg4aS2KuRcteUuiGC4udO8xulo2ABbzqwnRmlGnpdZ8dZ9B610vAjPzgd vADF57p/hV88B1JASTobm8O+7GsnZ9rEOm4DbtAPr79ur2UVVYr63rZCVrpyCQFVGgty LY1Jt/hGXqtEEi+18iWCpCUelZ3IZc6/kv2QAL4yZ5qIBYaDrbsSuATAA7mhuAaVinkF yAxg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=xU3LWZSkvPGcsKXk5GFzSynOUKgX/jEgfAvoKyGSmFs=; b=B4dtZoODHAhZc9VtF8YLEz3UuY0QL52f3jtuPU9mPT5bP7s7FOzb4CirxdcHPPUEJF ZgQyxutQbbFsjpZFda+WfQjbKvaXgUsrohN3AJRDqxaBz4S069aMBcR2AqGNQpc5zjoy 1fEqBJmdO7564J98HmYotCaATmymzTrFJXRLOD9kcYhqdauFBdIeqqGsg4su/5jnY8in WOj/ZtO0wGEYyFIwQg6uBxL+iTD0wnSTVA7hlbaAQqNFUBlIZwMdrfMh7hiaa0GyYEIS PkHMeKReumAZH/YQvvu8TJjRF+5PvC5OcXm1/SuR6fATcr5X2o1MK4zIDerCkdvxODwn hMhQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWZHHsejXgzNPqe1F0UkolGXQmHW/HODeyZPqEfG+DxncVhF7BDs wKBtkronNKeLR8FNdT0muPPe9FLAZfrnrVUxthk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/W8Qm92pVQigaogvyqGfG2A+jSLEXQ7cNcekv6zucMc3E41fvCit748J3klWvBah1pFVU1STCJnqZgg1ixQ7T0= X-Received: by 2002:a19:c4cc:: with SMTP id u195mr26779977lff.141.1546720062649; Sat, 05 Jan 2019 12:27:42 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a2e:3a11:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Jan 2019 12:27:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <201901050226.x052QigU089781@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> <22BA2F17-310F-4396-A35A-23E2D1130018@ronnatalie.com> <20190105153133.GA24497@mcvoy.com> From: Paul Winalski Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2019 15:27:42 -0500 Message-ID: To: "A. P. Garcia" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Isaacson v Unix X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 1/5/19, A. P. Garcia wrote: [concerning Richard Stallman] > > Building an operating system in and of itself was not so much his goal as > building the friendships and community surrounding it. > The GNU Hurd kernel certainly seems to have gotten nowhere, and with the success of Linux IMO the free software community doesn't need it anymore. But FSF certainly has made a big impact and contribution with the gcc toolchain and the free versions of the Unix shell and utilities. -Paul W.