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From: paul.winalski@gmail.com (Paul Winalski)
Subject: [TUHS] Disk data layout (was: /dev/drum)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 17:17:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABH=_VRWFy7wESGkTNLnZTWmyc3XR0zDKG4hS1TzZfqT6j8YPg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180425013134.GM31055@eureka.lemis.com>

On 4/24/18, Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog at lemis.com> wrote:
>
> "LBA" is newer than the time we're talking of.  In those days, disk
> data was addressed physically, by cylinder, head and sector, terms
> that only died out round the turn of the century.

IBM DASD--Direct Access Storage Device, a term that encompassed drums,
disks and the data cell drive--addressed data on the media physically
by bin, cylinder, head, and record, as a hexadecimal number BBCCHHR.
Bin number was zero except on the IBM 2321 data cell drive.  CKD
drives supported a variable number of records on each track, hence the
term "record" rather than "sector".

Logical block addressing (LBA) for sector-oriented disks allowed the
OS (or later, the disk controller) to hide bad block replacement from
programs.

VAX/VMS used a protected system file ([sysexe]badblock.sys) to keep
track of the bad blocks on each disk volume.  DEC once got a customer
bug report complaining that if a privileged user gave the command
"TYPE SYS$SYSTEM:BADBLOCK.SYS", the console logged bad block errors.

How does/did Unix handle bad block replacement?

-Paul W.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-04-25 21:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-20 15:02 [TUHS] /dev/drum Tim Bradshaw
2018-04-20 15:58 ` Clem Cole
2018-04-20 16:00 ` David Collantes
2018-04-20 16:12   ` Dan Cross
2018-04-20 16:21     ` Clem Cole
2018-04-20 16:33     ` Warner Losh
2018-04-20 19:17       ` Ron Natalie
2018-04-20 20:23         ` Clem Cole
2018-04-20 22:10         ` Dave Horsfall
2018-04-22 17:01     ` Lars Brinkhoff
2018-04-22 17:37       ` Clem Cole
2018-04-22 19:14         ` Bakul Shah
2018-04-22 20:58         ` Mutiny
2018-04-22 22:37           ` Clem cole
2018-04-22 21:51         ` Dave Horsfall
2018-04-25  1:27           ` Dan Stromberg
2018-04-25 12:18             ` Ronald Natalie
2018-04-25 13:39               ` Tim Bradshaw
2018-04-25 14:02                 ` arnold
2018-04-25 14:59                   ` tfb
2018-04-25 14:33               ` Ian Zimmerman
2018-04-25 14:46                 ` Larry McVoy
2018-04-25 15:03                   ` ron minnich
2018-04-25 20:29               ` Paul Winalski
2018-04-25 20:45                 ` Larry McVoy
2018-04-25 21:14                   ` Lawrence Stewart
2018-04-25 21:30                     ` ron minnich
2018-04-25 23:01                 ` Bakul Shah
2018-04-23 16:42         ` Tim Bradshaw
2018-04-23 17:30           ` Ron Natalie
2018-04-23 17:51             ` Clem Cole
2018-04-23 18:30               ` Ron Natalie
2018-04-25 14:02                 ` Tom Ivar Helbekkmo
2018-04-25 14:38                   ` Clem Cole
2018-04-23 20:47               ` Grant Taylor
2018-04-23 21:06                 ` Clem Cole
2018-04-23 21:14                   ` Dan Mick
2018-04-23 21:27                     ` Clem Cole
2018-04-24  3:28                       ` [TUHS] 3330s, 3340s, Winchesters... (was: /dev/drum) Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2018-04-24 11:43                         ` Paul Winalski
2018-04-24 13:13                           ` Clem Cole
2018-04-25  0:52                             ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2018-04-25 20:54                               ` Paul Winalski
2018-04-23 22:07                 ` [TUHS] /dev/drum Tim Bradshaw
2018-04-23 22:15                   ` Warner Losh
2018-04-23 23:30                     ` Grant Taylor
2018-04-24  9:37                       ` Michael Kjörling
2018-04-24  9:57                         ` Dave Horsfall
2018-04-24 13:01                           ` Nemo
2018-04-24 13:03                         ` Arthur Krewat
2018-04-25  1:31                       ` [TUHS] Disk data layout (was: /dev/drum) Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2018-04-25  6:43                         ` Hellwig Geisse
2018-04-25 21:17                         ` Paul Winalski [this message]
2018-04-25 21:55                           ` Bakul Shah
2018-04-27 15:47                           ` Dave Horsfall
2018-04-27 18:16                             ` Paul Winalski
2018-04-27 18:37                               ` Clem Cole
2018-04-23 23:45                   ` [TUHS] /dev/drum Arthur Krewat
2018-04-24  8:05                     ` tfb

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