From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 21184 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2022 12:34:58 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 4 Jul 2022 12:34:58 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A9940D75; Mon, 4 Jul 2022 22:34:22 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-yw1-f179.google.com (mail-yw1-f179.google.com [209.85.128.179]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40AA740D63 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2022 22:34:15 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-yw1-f179.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-317a66d62dfso80677137b3.7 for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2022 05:34:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=r6BCf3O4YDu11IU9NW2PSLDcbnbx+P4+lMbS/V30yPc=; b=BlkMv8XVlcFMQMCPVAM9F6PmncEmW3JTn6SMJMUu64NccnG40xBBBiuAdf3U+GLNCa ULkjDFiqCGVtHQAqdWfcti/3r7GJv8ZlWsiuIyAeF5GlOXxIXZcNurJY7cwXABzoY+VB CQXuJ7MHG9gIfF2AFQ7T69KjNV5v47MGTcldDffBl5E8b7cxaGqu5Vn8oFnuwp7Laj0E Kn7fxdtKitVMUq/D9KL3IwyG/PBFGVX1udFOVdlGxElDGrRurTY2hkDz5Y8KeavVaOHO ryBYr9MGY59wjiANlcqtJqz+x8jY5YSlXhhzruYMlhLf95FkmnuBNeOhfY8WnNaEL3L/ G3eA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=r6BCf3O4YDu11IU9NW2PSLDcbnbx+P4+lMbS/V30yPc=; b=CBcdDDVBDjGKVWIq2HhtmtCnJEFit5NaMWVeLu8dUvh7A3E0Isifjba9MNhacwgZOL RwSgzLkKgv9Uzubn7A3YiQZC1JNBJzXapyIa0/CI6+RU4dWXdbY05koLmLzUZebTYFv4 UZBq0rdTlUCcPvZ4WF5AOr16pWed06e6vBEMekdfjafg6xXF/XZcWyryFRfrgeP8zUrt NW2c2ls/hz6qQpAS2GPahSGsqEvMK+QedYq33+2gRoWdJH1irJJpxXyDLMUzmlWKSpJa L6BVYgSgBaMrn2NU48pn5HIhXuHjE8sE0kbchaIGFMgndgKdJC7bNsRoI+tvI7D5jj8A NjCw== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora9ncvk18imI7OWCs7iCU2ZINYBIsQjA6RtIbVGoeyJ9jpKbJ3Oe ES9KamCt+LvyLS8TVV2+JEhc7p+auGeUOelJ7CGJMnZm X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1tlHCHxV3txvKxejDpCC6iNuywzrIdw/DefiBq8rcH60GlFqkJ+VfkmnrPyn1W6IsJrPD4xc0COua2nUKuSdus= X-Received: by 2002:a0d:d757:0:b0:31c:87bb:d546 with SMTP id z84-20020a0dd757000000b0031c87bbd546mr9364279ywd.472.1656937994281; Mon, 04 Jul 2022 05:33:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a05:7000:9e27:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jul 2022 05:33:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20220703022743.GA15738@mcvoy.com> <20220703143906.GD18597@mcvoy.com> <5E49BE69-8869-473A-B3F5-6744566700F0@iitbombay.org> <08E9845C-CA79-4CBD-B7F1-508F0E5D1AF6@iitbombay.org> From: Paul Winalski Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2022 08:33:13 -0400 Message-ID: To: TUHS Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-ID-Hash: 7SVPDPHRR7WDAIPWXW65LCKRP3TG6SPW X-Message-ID-Hash: 7SVPDPHRR7WDAIPWXW65LCKRP3TG6SPW X-MailFrom: paul.winalski@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Thoughts on Licenses List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On 7/3/22, Matthias Bruestle wrote: > On Sun, Jul 03, 2022 at 03:48:33PM -0400, Clem Cole wrote: >> single custom application* that allows us to manage the server - as I >> said >> to Larry think the LS1-11 on the Vax and the 11/40 on the KL processors) > > I have a MicroVAXII with a KMV1A. Are you refering to such a card with > the "LSI-11 on the Vax"? Does this mean there is a V7 running on it? > I really don't know much about that card. Might have been used for I/O with > an IBM 3090 in this computer. Clem is referring to the VAX-11/780 (and its follow-ons the 782 and 785), which used a LSI-11 processor (PDP-11/03) to load its microcode on power-on. IIRC the LSI-11 front end also ran the system console device (originally a LA-36 DECwriter terminal). The third generation PDP-10 CPU (the KL10) similarly had a PDP-11/40 front end that did the bootstrap loading and also acted as a peripheral device controller. -Paul W.