From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id a4f2df69 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2020 16:32:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C34DA9C22A; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 02:32:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 887129C208; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 02:31:27 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="Tbz70h4k"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id B5F949C14A; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 02:31:24 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vk1-f178.google.com (mail-vk1-f178.google.com [209.85.221.178]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 263FD9C102 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 02:31:24 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vk1-f178.google.com with SMTP id c129so85950vkh.7 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2020 08:31:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=hstWUJl9T9Wl7zny6djsQFhqL6Hn5Ct53hK+r1tRjNA=; b=Tbz70h4kHcPc4p/n2a36nOXBITbQoXXCEGF8VwWykOaUWzbbgZ4TqJzckhXKrOLCi0 lq1f//YwrabpbjQSxIuXro4KGB7eOD4gpMk84tUjlv1i6jMSmqKeuPC/Ro6zcLkYo0Hd 8LnM/OjZz+NuvJh4xqnohgVY9Gc/+gr4IJL7uXPruENQS/OmN9liOAAvJ5sw0FXcF7pF YOD1HqUnzqN/iI93iZoFGOe51cnjLjMindbE3LwBgQbXfDBwXN//O4B9vbgopWInoYn0 kuAfpY1Qxnf0xnttUriUUInnAvHA9ARPoOI4qbFfMHZb4rXbJNUQwFDmhViAIt6GOSI4 vJ/g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=hstWUJl9T9Wl7zny6djsQFhqL6Hn5Ct53hK+r1tRjNA=; b=KVGPm/MA59gXVhVpTWEpCqs6GWydxKeuqGFI0BsdV5g3w76l6pkZf8yKBynoLtjoW0 60loxAiff5k8HPc4j72h1DMB790n/ICFQboCY//i9rfryMZEr8G4gM3jKV4EzNbRjWgs MYCZNwKRuMF8Qmry9VTenYr71rjphC0NtT/kO15OBXo2+uKwkdUGMKuYee0Xaz7il/Vn iFjFKqIEe+5wV9GChgkLIB6eKbEZySHMSiNEWH0bBLjFvmdlc3VybN1EllbDizIxB2P5 vWa1k8+//pK8VxmDt/60sGtDI7ssFa+8aAJiTIEQdhIYeJtCD/68iLDHvESNLKfLwHhy p3tw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVtdvMMQGph8W+uL89ZPZhxnUzdcyjvVptFZxuYcBOAjyuDkZid WrTyXsM/AeE5/Bg8NHlh0StpvezNPI+JZ8R5oLI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyxmHb4qat5WYHfwND7G1T9dzTq20HilhZQavolRXQmswJm7swRnhp9uzPRZMy0OSc9bP8bkZ0s1TSk2kzqVds= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:c982:: with SMTP id z124mr6644539vkf.6.1579710683129; Wed, 22 Jan 2020 08:31:23 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ab0:3745:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jan 2020 08:31:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20200121230025.GL15860@mit.edu> From: Paul Winalski Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2020 11:31:22 -0500 Message-ID: To: Richard Salz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Apollo Domain/OS X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 1/21/20, Richard Salz wrote: > >And their build and source system was recreated as > ClearCase. That was the Domain Software Engineering Environment (DSEE). One of my fellow engineers in DEC's Software Development Methods & Tools group was Dave Leblang, He had been working on CMS (Code Management System), DEC's source code versioning system for VAX/VMS. At Apollo he developed DSEE, and he was a co-founder of Atria. CMS took many ideas from SCCS on the PWB. Apollo also did some early work in the field of CGI ray-tracing. They released the very impressive 4-minute film "Quest: A Long Ray's Journey into Night" in 1986. The ray-tracing was done by a network of 100 Apollo workstations and was revolutionary for its time. -Paul W.