From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id b354d955 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 16:06:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 9FCEF947CD; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 02:06:00 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4060994790; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 02:05:42 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="uXLPwEG1"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 11B3B94790; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 02:05:40 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-lf1-f47.google.com (mail-lf1-f47.google.com [209.85.167.47]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5888793D35 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 02:05:39 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-lf1-f47.google.com with SMTP id r134so16890645lff.12 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 09:05:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=dbUSUwfy5AnAC5o9vPxInWzspwAMCNDaqjnId6r6KAE=; b=uXLPwEG1c1kVaP6usxToZ0JiVez9uqPunXN8R3xszG6tbpma4M/sGhcOzW8ppd1lA5 6sPINOJ1xoweJiEdA4T3bQsGbjoxhVmsEQzYQyKRI/V8sQkBgFxLwO4YRzjA8bhDOIby nttq2aosP+h+wht2o7DVVdNb39FHNoIHYw989X+8lDsXAlN/luWjQq28lh8EqfDkS60K K+sXhiFy1FVCN/O2A06RikJxYMsRGkpvmhF4zgle+ci2l4ctoKY86vVFkWbCeF4zAbQM /8ATHYd4LVVy0lq9PrkQlerTdM5FdrL5jaH1WH7SzdIRslok9tYYLz7G/ZbcKgFThyZx FE/w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=dbUSUwfy5AnAC5o9vPxInWzspwAMCNDaqjnId6r6KAE=; b=OdbtD0uP7Ssg6LwNcQoPuNRWqLzrbVg4aVkgDnvKtKY2pTtUoPi94q87P44Rcdg6SZ JGn04Xil1ZiQ/1p1AlbQPWLVJbsb/5RaKLn8NVIgVgVxEZePi/2t/WQyVQvIIb8vhAu3 58Df/cveN8dZm4JyS0OqMLizws1s2BchmOG2hbvna6MbXP+KoTccQsrtZbmNUebP3REz dHIfzOpZBVhWQp0nioJ6bOHEvBlNCE8NgkenZw7LvCN4aegKVNNOu9SevyrZooh7qo2y jZr62uM7xFKT/1NE/qip3+hwBSdzJ91KxtJUDZFnzhH/dJzldV0WPrUT14XhtZlCPk/Z h0Kw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUReACpfiDOSNb+v5W46B4JPAQnfjgXMAAJTZdlvlijsN5CN9cc bdYytyx9hOZMjt/f0usSZW1yW0e7Hc9Ad4QuCv0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzPd+GXrhyvEmuVomJFqFJ2e5pipHYUAeX1T1hlpnfY5+IbjSU1uPh3e5QoaydLjqbzvfJMOVf1k0xWZbl4/OM= X-Received: by 2002:ac2:5dfa:: with SMTP id z26mr24952788lfq.37.1568217937811; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 09:05:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a2e:4449:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 09:05:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Paul Winalski Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 12:05:37 -0400 Message-ID: To: Clem Cole Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [TUHS] PWB vs Unix/TS X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" >On 9/10/19, Clem Cole wrote: > > SCCS was important and the RJE support was important because that was the > system being used and it made a huge impression on AT&T staff. A terminal > to a UNIX box was way cheaper and to the IBM and people were so much more > productive. IBM RJE stations were card-based, with a card reader, card punch, and line printer. Communication with the mainframe was via half-duplex bisync. Certainly editing programs on a UNIX terminal would be WAY more productive than punch cards! -Paul W.