From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 20356 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2023 16:17:26 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 13 Mar 2023 16:17:26 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C48E9415BE; Tue, 14 Mar 2023 02:17:22 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-pj1-x1036.google.com (mail-pj1-x1036.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1036]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E71AD415BD for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2023 02:17:14 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-pj1-x1036.google.com with SMTP id l9-20020a17090a3f0900b0023d32684e7fso69637pjc.1 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2023 09:17:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; t=1678724234; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=SJRAd8bTjyKzwK92QEHWznZ/aA+MqHqDIAiF3x7AT3k=; b=bNJyAPhLc7SCspDSnMN0CGoXyzhJD7ZaYiQG1w7HJeFqK7dvFl1j1HxzLpGf20KLtS 7m1F1WeEnSp0TXQrdxo/EDfp0fA+nRDf+DiRKS8cF4HQtv8x8fypQPL2bHIp/i1gkE2k u8u8dAPVqUYMJ08X3oFZDIQfiVCDWL0R4DCYGyXuv+fwQKFRfNSUW5tNsP+F88iszlCt zNp9NlDbhWLiquw5fA9Z4iNMauMpLcj/Cz9QwoyWw1YdWS6m0LVUxdRnULv3+dyyhMpO 6SkEaMRtDcdxys3m2VjYnEEBc5iM4cYDb+gTE10sStnpYbJ1TrkRBuzZh49QIHH7igcY mRRw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1678724234; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=SJRAd8bTjyKzwK92QEHWznZ/aA+MqHqDIAiF3x7AT3k=; b=1m1MF6590RqmjnoXthCMLWAJUVKhMPOStTq/Lefdr+b6XVqlkXEct9pyudwr9TC2IT 8tYHlpLmFhd37K82VNLIGvIElu0S/jtN5d+Rtm+IaLt2GSuAvwgEe+fbB665eF7DixW/ ddDQUARoJIQP0+QyHVFikM24PfVE/nv64uMnRBKmRtnTQEWLbizfwTZ1YS0t8tEw51KI oupGCU+hV8GZu5ZcWUav9rwOgu0xoINz9s36cd8/lM4g7Pp7wxyu7lggPSaR1f/7SojC cX9hRPkOjcXJAPAS8/jcxRhk3FCz20K+TKR2UBg4WUu2exM2aarems82S1LIj2KSUTZU Tbww== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKU01Gm0CZeT6MiJ7O7SLG7QlW9S5QLT/nLtzykckZvy4Yyf0elf LGeU6DQQDMxF98wvgYXmlJu+WcNQx+IzSLcbZEQ6t9Xq X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set/9m0kmggstvC912W/NyjF9RqAoaS2cKc1l3950+qBhs0oSXDqVjKCt49m8BZ9bzrc6goUa70qzernGR/zD3vo= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:4391:b0:23d:110b:a2ba with SMTP id in17-20020a17090b439100b0023d110ba2bamr1091523pjb.0.1678724234216; Mon, 13 Mar 2023 09:17:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a05:6a10:ed0c:b0:3bc:b7f6:895e with HTTP; Mon, 13 Mar 2023 09:17:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <78FE1F5F-7408-4BB0-8D2E-62AA00465774@planet.nl> From: Paul Winalski Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2023 12:17:13 -0400 Message-ID: To: Clem Cole Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-ID-Hash: KDMTYPAJEABFK6WKT4DM7FC2RCWEPCR3 X-Message-ID-Hash: KDMTYPAJEABFK6WKT4DM7FC2RCWEPCR3 X-MailFrom: paul.winalski@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Paul Ruizendaal , "tuhs@tuhs.org" X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: virtual consoles / Alt-Fx List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On 3/13/23, Clem Cole wrote: > one more thing. In PDP-10 land, I think they would have called > them 'sessions' but it was a similar idea - although the PC versions since > they also provided the 'terminal emulation' had to do a bit more. TOPS-10/20 had the concept of pseudo-terminals (PTYs)--objects in the OS that appear to be terminals to user mode software (and most of the kernel as well). There was a utility called PTYCON (PTY CONtroller) that would let one manage several login sessions (each on its own pseudo-terminal) from a single terminal (which could of course itself be a PTY). IIRC PTYCON had the ability to split the VT-100 screen so that you could view more than one PTY session at a time. Poor man's windows. -Paul W.