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From: Paul Winalski <paul.winalski@gmail.com>
To: TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Origins of the SGS (System Generation Software) and COFF (Common Object File Format)
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2023 10:51:12 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABH=_VTaY5CifZO6DLjpDseQg+K_kY8rd_W6i1sQg3iUTRj8ng@mail.gmail.com> (raw)

On 2/25/23, Brian Walden <tuhs@cuzuco.com> wrote:
> It was originaly 205. See A.OUT(V) (the first page) at
> https://www.bell-labs.com/usr/dmr/www/man51.pdf it was documented as to
> why.
>
>
>      The header always contains 6 words:
>           1 "br .+14" instruction (205(8))
>           2 The size of the program text
>           3 The size of the symbol table
>           4 The size of the relocation bits area
>           5 The size of a data area
>           6 A zero word (unused at present)
>
> I always found this so elegant in it's simplicity. Just load and start
> execution at the start (simplifies exec(2) in the kernel) I always wondered
> if this has done anywhere else before, or invenetd first in unix.

IBM's Basic Program Support (BPS) for System/360 was a set of
stand-alone utilities for developing and running stand-alone programs.
BPS/360 wasn't really an operating system because there wasn't any
resident kernel.  You just IPLed (Initial Program Load; IBM-speak for
"boot") your application directly.  So the executable format for BPS
had a bootstrap loader as the "program header".  Not quite the same
thing as a.out's 205(8) magic number, but similar in concept.

I don't know of any other OS ABI that uses this trick to transfer
control to application programs.

Microsoft uses something similar in PECOFF.  A PECOFF executable for
x86 or X86-64 starts with a bit of code in MS-DOS MZ executable format
that prints the message "This program cannot be run in DOS mode".

-Paul W.

             reply	other threads:[~2023-02-26 15:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-26 15:51 Paul Winalski [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-02-25 20:14 Brian Walden
2023-02-23 21:37 Paul Ruizendaal
2023-02-23 22:11 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-02-24  0:07   ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-02-23 15:13 Noel Chiappa
2023-02-22 20:16 [TUHS] " segaloco via TUHS
2023-02-22 22:20 ` [TUHS] " Clem Cole
2023-02-23  0:17   ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-02-23  6:30   ` Lars Brinkhoff
2023-02-23 14:25     ` KenUnix
2023-02-23 19:37     ` Warner Losh
2023-02-24 17:01       ` Rich Salz
2023-02-23 16:49   ` Paul Winalski
2023-02-23 18:38     ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-02-23 20:40       ` Paul Winalski
2023-02-24 12:45     ` arnold
2023-02-24 13:13       ` Arno Griffioen via TUHS
2023-02-25 19:28         ` arnold
2023-02-25 19:34           ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2023-02-24 14:01       ` Harald Arnesen
2023-02-25  2:07     ` Dave Horsfall
2023-02-25 15:30       ` Clem Cole
2023-02-25 17:29         ` Paul Winalski

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