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From: Paul Winalski <paul.winalski@gmail.com>
To: George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org>
Cc: TUHS main list <tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] PL/I stuff - was: Book Recommendation
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2021 11:12:28 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABH=_VTdNeipR3JRebbk1qNWGLe0GqT9c0Z0+YFS_juPGN7pzw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKr6gn2GeJEwcZYLeU6NERrL26D8SbbF4Xie8=20q0QKHL6ZZA@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/26/21, George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org> wrote:
>
>Burroughs by comparison had (I am
> told, I didn't use them) shit hot code, the kernel was in a ci/cd
> deployment framework with smarts. And DEC had the decus tapes and
> everything in VMS was on microfiche.

Originally on the S/360 IBM software was free (the DECUS tapes model)
as well, and the source code was available on microfiche.  There were
some successful third party software products.  For example, a lot of
very big data centers shelled out the $$$ for SyncSort because it was
so much better and faster than the (free) IBM sort/merge program.

Then, as part of the settlement for one of the antitrust lawsuits, IBM
was forced to unbundle software from hardware.  IBM made lemonade out
of this bunch of lemons by marketing its software licenses on a
subscription basis vs. selling a license for a one-time charge (the
model that DEC used, and that is most common in the PC market).
Microsoft seems to be trending that way with Windows 10/11.

-Paul W.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-27 16:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-24 23:54 Douglas McIlroy
2021-11-25 16:35 ` Paul Winalski
2021-11-25 18:15   ` Steve Nickolas
2021-11-26 16:59   ` Paul Winalski
2021-11-26 20:30     ` Tom Ivar Helbekkmo via TUHS
2021-11-26 21:22       ` John Cowan
2021-11-27  0:01         ` George Michaelson
2021-11-27 16:12           ` Paul Winalski [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-11-27 15:25 Noel Chiappa
2021-11-27 15:53 ` Charles H Sauer
2021-11-16 14:57 [TUHS] " Douglas McIlroy
2021-11-23  2:28 ` Mary Ann Horton
2021-11-23 21:54   ` Thomas Paulsen
2021-11-24 15:18     ` Richard Salz
2021-11-24 22:19       ` Charles Anthony
2021-11-24 22:29         ` [TUHS] PL/I stuff - was: " Will Senn
2021-11-24 23:00           ` Rob Pike
2021-11-24 23:13             ` Richard Salz
2021-11-25  1:48           ` Nelson H. F. Beebe
2021-11-25  2:03             ` George Michaelson
2021-11-25 14:47               ` Clem Cole
2021-11-26 22:20                 ` Alan Glasser
2021-11-26 22:33               ` Alan Glasser
2021-11-27  0:23               ` Dennis Boone
2021-11-27  0:30                 ` Larry McVoy
2021-11-27  0:47                   ` Charles H. Sauer
2021-11-27  2:43                     ` Alan Glasser
2021-11-27  0:56                   ` Warner Losh

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