From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 27607 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2022 02:04:22 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 12 Jan 2022 02:04:22 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 6B1B29D02F; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 12:04:19 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26919CFC9; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 12:04:07 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="MHhbA/r6"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id DA8729CFC9; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 12:04:04 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-pj1-f54.google.com (mail-pj1-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A9989C78F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 12:04:04 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-pj1-f54.google.com with SMTP id i8-20020a17090a138800b001b3936fb375so8870450pja.1 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 18:04:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Gm/2F6KREgVqo/NtfrGr6wWBTeXQbJiQrIegF/9CdMA=; b=MHhbA/r6lXW/FcDPEFlM9O/H92Rbw/UNJe6rHSF+eeOQNhQLXmmXquNulZs7Et5jmE HVr9266xILb4bZCthBfD3YgPrjFeXy9eEdH5wuMCTfSn4uPY9upc1/+29s0skTHSVeUg vYW3b6PmJNYCoRX0XBpTEDRa9ne4Lsm/Q1uY8cwc7N94aZQwV8eyJnHWut7slbXegUzN wqhTXsCc4YgOpMF8LI/ACufcCUFOf4zNwpnqVvnJDFrStL6SwUYIvYqj0d+PRv/YLWux /xP5Bg/pFYSZKipzp4kqRgcATh40xDfVPzh+ajOoM5Cao2n3ydSYxUSnPULqBwHTGgc2 mRfQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Gm/2F6KREgVqo/NtfrGr6wWBTeXQbJiQrIegF/9CdMA=; b=5CgJn0GZYJ+RzoDctlpkvUxUkb2/DxA3OFAAAeqUtf4afItwCCpx/5m8GR03jRYM5j aiyu5aD+XiCCSi6aRPJ57XKl7eV1rAlTm2j6Dm341Q4aGumyZsj3QaJGxpxjdyWH9R8i QsYrJAL1p1cOeiOEusldZGnx4VRTlmQkxFfPoSeam3kkNrynxV/dT7IweiysAPMtp45s NUZhpHDBmEtMrWKjTIVTCKoUMaTeiU6XP0Azpnn7C7O14UAEmYiyaKBQhelIF5HHnENb Fu+1iC78A19NqYmdWzhcPGfVUDiXo7aLk5wMS9Xjx6IuIHfuQEgODHEdEuioHarDIawG hYeg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530CmhHuOrcrxmrDK6kQjI6a1jsi6ADZLqFH8hw5gjvFg7PK4gg8 HTquAXY8+QoOSTZvOK9RUnT64uT7qIxQ4oE9IwO9C5sX X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyHbBd5CGVfVGuKmG5xtXf5ecUJ+zdyRme7ikR52ULl6eqpt4lCt48SssPgBqzGKjlXk27h2bu+8CDOvdtotHU= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:bd44:b0:14a:2c66:a06c with SMTP id b4-20020a170902bd4400b0014a2c66a06cmr7369087plx.152.1641953044023; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 18:04:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20211231234039.GU31637@mcvoy.com> <20220101005605.GL75481@eureka.lemis.com> <20220101031511.GB8135@mcvoy.com> <20220110203300.GY3441@mcvoy.com> <695e2970-00f2-ab55-8c1a-9fbd03add77f@mhorton.net> In-Reply-To: <695e2970-00f2-ab55-8c1a-9fbd03add77f@mhorton.net> From: Blake McBride Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 20:03:53 -0600 Message-ID: To: Mary Ann Horton Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ed50d505d558fba2" Subject: Re: [TUHS] TeX and groff (was: roff(7)) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000ed50d505d558fba2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 7:20 PM Mary Ann Horton wrote: > I recall attending a TeX lecture by Knuth around 1981. He said he wasn't > satisfied with the character layout from other formatting programs, > which drove him to write TeX. He illustrated in great detail the kerning > and exact placement of the font characters next to each other. I > couldn't tell the difference, but clearly it was very important to him. > He wanted his documents to look perfect. > Yes! That goes to one of my original points. While it is true that CM fonts have a particular look that may be interpreted as "better", there is a lot more to it. Blake McBride --000000000000ed50d505d558fba2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 7:20 PM Mary = Ann Horton <mah@mhorton.net> w= rote:
I recall a= ttending a TeX lecture by Knuth around 1981. He said he wasn't
satisfied with the character layout from other formatting programs,
which drove him to write TeX. He illustrated in great detail the kerning and exact placement of the font characters next to each other. I
couldn't tell the difference, but clearly it was very important to him.=
He wanted his documents to look perfect.

Yes!=C2=A0 That goes to one of my original points.=C2=A0 While it is true= that CM fonts have a particular look that may be interpreted as "bett= er", there is a lot more to it.

Blake McBride=
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