From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id ae769361 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 13:48:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 517C49ED18; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 23:48:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6563E9E982; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 23:47:50 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b=P0yYv0L0; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id EAEC19E982; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 23:47:47 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-wm0-f41.google.com (mail-wm0-f41.google.com [74.125.82.41]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 92FF29E3A6 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 23:47:46 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-wm0-f41.google.com with SMTP id o11-v6so2873006wmh.2 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 06:47:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=+MDLtLfrrWJWDxpxh8mM/hXt2HjWxnta+OhyAp4Y71I=; b=P0yYv0L0BTgxNnwZ2dDe5bbi2X5EF9F+wwgKPQZztNZHiSa5ggvHK86t3sfTaZLdgJ F5D5qXKYdvH6tIPNWVDh+DviN3zKYOUx6anCaxKB6+IGH/dQvGzGm+3fYJVCrg3DG7cS pHqXumh3jZSjSrLa1Jv7npGBSUEf8asf4ugBNTUx9FASdbf2P5Yzk6k1g6EI54xjUi5F uh65bb52GfvPaAuISyixZSLjUFIYACwzZSeRGD4MvZeJMN67VNS/pxwG3W2TyFQv8IFc nLLp8X+31MPOfSeH3oM2jOW0OaZ6Q7Z+7SBVraB6INE2T7Hb9QnJbV2SO4qeBmk+dSjF SgZw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=+MDLtLfrrWJWDxpxh8mM/hXt2HjWxnta+OhyAp4Y71I=; b=RnBBGd6XFQGDgDfFpIFyKSDZrzlyTKgYDcJZcU71eyai315nszSqnkN5iVdnAud+cX DGS+Cim1Q1Yj5enWLWrACtQVgZ/XHvvVvI4QoOf1OydULN9iUx3VUxbrmMapVAIhrKoD 2e5kuU1/sF2AvWBVJpNBOaQDBnzvtXvW5GuFF+6CmMs2Z1kIN+Auz96meXsnOWxixaPD X3IzbVd4MAXxjQIy4yxidak5CZpDvEmO52tboTMm3ntVtC6TeRFdNRIutIRQdsRunK+A Ly878iPtNNO1PaK2rW9tG6U2wgLJShFCV9UV2Ua3v+RcsmECctYJGL9LL94BuF7ftUox gl4Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlHdPi5KsTIJYO8+SB1uRNOPcaY4J6B1sAidKlbcY6dC91fFAvq+ p50F0Pc30Ui+Hugs/u5g6s5qR07+3zSM/daICXo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpeCro1LdaKkyGztcjlu/3O9qmnqTxh0AmJmSg3Auqhwv8o0BnK451vXBNI4zPyAP7O0NC9TcRXDi58N/llt26c= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:6b90:: with SMTP id a16-v6mr1623554wmi.74.1531921665085; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 06:47:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:adf:8f64:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 06:47:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201807181139.w6IBdvUT063499@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> References: <201807181139.w6IBdvUT063499@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> From: "John P. Linderman" Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 09:47:44 -0400 Message-ID: To: Doug McIlroy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000abd61b0571464eda" Subject: Re: [TUHS] TUHS Digest, Vol 32, Issue 12 X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Unix Heritage Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000abd61b0571464eda Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" "Grep" as a verb expanded beyond files. I recall a friend saying they were "grepping for their keys on the dresser". On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 7:39 AM, Doug McIlroy wrote: > Arnold was clerly on the Unix Room wavelength. ^All those two-letter > commands were spelled out in conversation, even m-v. The pronunciation > of rmdir was hybrid: r-m-dir. But when one talked about an action--not > a command per se--verbs would be used: move or copy a file, list > a directory. The famous exception is grep, which became a verb. There > was no snappy ready-made verb that covered all the aspects of its use: > search for mentions in one file, find files that mention, look for > patterns, filter data, check for malformed data, ... The verb had > two idiomatic variants, "grep for" and "grep out". > > Doug > --000000000000abd61b0571464eda Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
&qu= ot;Grep" as a verb expanded beyond files. I recall a friend saying the= y were "grepping for their keys on the dresser".

On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 a= t 7:39 AM, Doug McIlroy <doug@cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote:
Arnold was clerly on the Unix Room wavelen= gth. ^All those two-letter
commands were spelled out in conversation, even m-v. The pronunciation
of rmdir was hybrid: r-m-dir. But when one talked about an action--not
a command per se--verbs would be used: move or copy a file, list
a directory. The famous exception is grep, which became a verb. There
was no snappy ready-made verb that covered all the aspects of its use:
search for mentions in one file, find files that mention, look for
patterns, filter data, check for malformed data, ... The verb had
two idiomatic variants, "grep for" and "grep out".

Doug

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