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From: "John P. Linderman" <jpl.jpl@gmail.com>
To: William Corcoran <wlc@jctaylor.com>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] ATT Hardware
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2018 20:55:11 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC0cEp8FtKQor1-Xrd35JiDbPFvsQ1fTwft94ds2DV0nhfr7gg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <927BB205-49F8-492B-8AAB-0395F36B549A@jctaylor.com>

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So prohibiting someone from pushing a button differed in what way from
allowing them to pull a plug? I can understand there may have been some
difference in state when/if the machine was rebooted. If I just wanted the
machine to cease sucking power, what's the difference? I never wanted that
box to exist, or come back to life, in whatever color.

On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 8:20 PM, William Corcoran <wlc@jctaylor.com> wrote:

> No! no! no!  The 3b2 was one of the first supermicros to fully integrate
> power management with the system.   Yanking the cord would be unthinkable
> mainly because it was unnecessary.  The shutdown script would remove power
> to the the system once the system safely went down and buffers were
> flushed.   You could also depress this massive rocket switch on the side of
> the unit and it would kick off the powerdown script.  It is noteworthy that
> the 3b2 power switch was stateless...allowing human and computer to turn
> off the power.
>
> Finally, the 3b2 is probably the only system in the world with system
> diagnostics so in depth that they were nearly as significant as the
> operating system.   It’s a telecommunications thing.   Interestingly,  the
> color of the 3b2 was similar to a VAX Brown and White.
>
>
> On Jul 1, 2018, at 6:24 PM, John P. Linderman <jpl.jpl@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Puns aside, anyone who didn't consider pulling the plug was probably not
> someone who should be bringing the system down.
>
> On Sat, Jun 30, 2018 at 10:17 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, 30 June 2018 at  7:15:07 -0400, Norman Wilson wrote:
>> > Ron Natalie:
>> >
>> >   My favorite 3B2ism was that the power switch was soft (uncommon then,
>> not so
>> >   much now).   I seem to recall that if the logged in user wasn't in a
>> >   particular group, pushing the power button was a no-op.   You didn't
>> have
>> >   sufficient privs to operate the power.
>> >
>> > ====
>> >
>> > Surely you mean the current user didn't have sufficent power.
>>
>> Or was experiencing too much resistance?
>>
>> Greg
>> --
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>
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-02  0:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-30 11:15 Norman Wilson
2018-07-01  2:17 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2018-07-01 20:14   ` John P. Linderman
2018-07-02  0:20     ` William Corcoran
2018-07-02  0:55       ` John P. Linderman [this message]
2018-07-02  3:59         ` William Corcoran
2018-07-02 10:13       ` Kevin Bowling
2018-07-03  1:02     ` Dave Horsfall
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-06-29 13:16 ron
2018-06-29 14:55 ` John P. Linderman
2018-06-29 15:07   ` Clem Cole
2018-06-29 16:31   ` ron
2018-06-29 17:51     ` Seth J. Morabito
2018-06-29 15:26 ` Seth J. Morabito
2018-06-29 16:29   ` ron
2018-06-29 18:48 ` Perry E. Metzger

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