From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 58f9b3b5 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2020 15:47:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 5EFED9CC23; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 01:47:48 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDDC19CC07; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 01:47:34 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="ijbgQjuB"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id E95A19CC07; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 01:47:33 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vs1-f48.google.com (mail-vs1-f48.google.com [209.85.217.48]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 79E289CB14 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 01:47:33 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vs1-f48.google.com with SMTP id t12so1589882vso.13 for ; Wed, 05 Feb 2020 07:47:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=3XHvKWjfXHdO1Pz0gZTs2QJSYAtfJftcwe310V4Q/+U=; b=ijbgQjuBb0GgwhAuptbn6cTao+zi7IP4XUrnL5D0ZnGiT9G+JADMxWRMVMjcnV1TUP YQIOefGigoRfg3UyTOQEKjfaXGCZZygD7TzEbQ4MHYtFNLkc2k2Xw1POp75ib516j2zG YcEUrHWf93yEBlSk2pbFhhGF4/YJ++YrnM322FaKciBgI91YuPCmJ6N4sb3dEMy8zF7r 09NAR+opy8tMmMGj/RW8EhtMXHsNYnjP8mhjTqqNcibJ9Wc7D7n9/3fv+yZ2JRXSNyiO q6Ut4bDJdGUldEGQZTLb1Drx4JOZsvIgWeuC3d/zcnc45TLkDzmMaPnLA2fjOq8cu0SF rr9g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=3XHvKWjfXHdO1Pz0gZTs2QJSYAtfJftcwe310V4Q/+U=; b=A+9spvIfyGAAJB8jp3G0zf3HkM8OMf/aujcybKYEe8SasVHhGH0PrGeFiicZnRRQP5 rxxssufJEFhV68OcWewaolvL6yhKzyL7BpW+3V7PW2z1H1F4rb1+Q3z41ai+eMkrjnk5 jDzAc1J8r2OUTOK2ojD4EIjncxre6gC9NyKFwxLht8J1Ib/vT2mChoTLtFAkdPa6NRY4 y1FFurHeYYZZo9MSuaN+3rwp990YX1zmjaeQ8VniJSurAPer+qbNslQeNVwU7TL9PnKP EqJ1b3g+lt+O37AvP83dLCwjMp1/IzLdtM9lqRrIf7lVtaQSYUGkkg7JmpIoCisTwD24 H97w== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXrCui5GOux7KuZ8X1b68ecrvOHauGagyLR3lq/fbLanH++D97Z YkGpLUqsq34s34WzNyHGEjhm1lK35RhnUH9EcL0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqx0dR+RmMwVCMrmfzj5pTUKey8iCiwzmv8v9Lh1m6PsNJdVMlOoMcQP+HGpL0/7PDXievAfDx8FWDE/gLHm76g= X-Received: by 2002:a67:ea87:: with SMTP id f7mr21149426vso.52.1580917652348; Wed, 05 Feb 2020 07:47:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1FE9FA5C-9802-4DAB-9814-3D15BBA2D10E@xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <1FE9FA5C-9802-4DAB-9814-3D15BBA2D10E@xs4all.nl> From: "John P. Linderman" Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 10:47:21 -0500 Message-ID: To: Jaap Akkerhuis Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000016615e059dd613d5" Subject: Re: [TUHS] keyboards and command names X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --00000000000016615e059dd613d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I of course defer to dmr about the major influence, but I very much appreciated the brevity when printing programs and shell scripts and lines in ed at 110 baud, even with a terminal having a respectable keyboard. I printed much more than I entered. On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 10:38 AM Jaap Akkerhuis wrote: > > > > I have always suspected that the brevity of the Unix command names was > strongly > > influenced by the clunky keyboards on the teletypes that were being > used. Can > > anyone confirm, deny, and/or comment on this? > > Peter Collinson made the same observation at the 25th year celebration > of UNIX (USENIX, Washington) and it was confirmed by dmr. > > jaap > > --00000000000016615e059dd613d5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I of course defer to dmr about the major influence, = but I very much appreciated the brevity when printing programs and shell sc= ripts and lines in ed at 110 baud, even with a terminal having a respectabl= e keyboard.=C2=A0 I printed much more than I entered.

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On Wed, Feb= 5, 2020 at 10:38 AM Jaap Akkerhuis <jaapna@xs4all.nl> wrote:

> I have always suspected that the brevity of the Unix command names was= strongly
> influenced by the clunky keyboards on the teletypes that were being us= ed.=C2=A0 Can
> anyone confirm, deny, and/or comment on this?

Peter Collinson made the same observation at the 25th year celebration
of UNIX (USENIX, Washington) and it was confirmed by dmr.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 jaap

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