From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 96ea32e6 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2018 12:52:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 6B37DA188B; Fri, 29 Jun 2018 22:52:08 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C75DBA182F; Fri, 29 Jun 2018 22:51:39 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b=WpvGS5DU; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A2D14A1815; Fri, 29 Jun 2018 22:51:36 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-wr0-f175.google.com (mail-wr0-f175.google.com [209.85.128.175]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 302FFA1815; Fri, 29 Jun 2018 22:51:35 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-wr0-f175.google.com with SMTP id c13-v6so8744788wrq.2; Fri, 29 Jun 2018 05:51:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Szwz2+ML6UBbRCdZ2xsyY93tfvcGzMIPg1UNPhvDky8=; b=WpvGS5DUxg37Ji0qA4niK9ela6CLBjW8F+AAm2Z+812LYZMCAzGHX0zME9b0umSzLS wGC+0PTWFtxjx9HDkl4x/JNgDsn7yPmrudWS6/ljcLpIyLMAu8WpV1ZtssZkf3e8a7pg HLEf86+BURYHQlGLI5TgcHchix6XoHOc8Bc8l0X+8E07ZwDJk1sEIKbGZCrCeVqBL69t AcvQeWSi5BcKv82rINxg7g96mBzptbevUU1RA6ix1K/9OzhmL/qIhOL0aKbx5k3Tuvt2 boC+godNJ+QQPckm9QGutxVshyOB4bHH+VOwIcbjUH7IeRh4mZpE1p4RYoG5Qx3E6nuf uCgA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Szwz2+ML6UBbRCdZ2xsyY93tfvcGzMIPg1UNPhvDky8=; b=iFARKr2MaWqKhvpNnOrITT6ztWaSbcQG1bqmimCRwHto4GKKoEk0xF31SDFM9Ni2Mu USvtTzkjkTT3tuBRGnvGljhhlhnYq2rRMTYanzbH7puF2YPRfm4EZx82AxNGabxwfK6z TngH78ffK/cA0R90JU8OLLDfJBGDwCZd7FdIP0zuspSnAu921dNB8RGXi6mPR0TVU/lp oZm+R3qnWDedh9IIYXlM2+GqQ9JyBdWKiGpSArd6HYevKmS+aiEgpirzrs/WnFG0WxQW ELJshwhLvGZ3vJACq1kkWClbQADsIWfNKj4L/g0zyKva6eHOth79+r1S6BhATGdI764z Q0bQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E2hfn9AiInnxglRM9U0TH5HKZ0TDlQAN/AYet1NIywq1gt8p+87 rmDEp5nKXl6jS8tTLt99j3SiuZtHbCTzLT7Hlp4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpeAc8W5s+GfNyVVn8T10ieK8Fu8cgn1/jSesEIRwy86EfcrSos52fIpCVMuFRgqihomlGTDDfkv2uJQXSNBFHI= X-Received: by 2002:adf:a54d:: with SMTP id j13-v6mr12873214wrb.155.1530276693485; Fri, 29 Jun 2018 05:51:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:adf:8f64:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Jun 2018 05:51:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7A8E301D-D8F7-40DA-9042-ABCA887821EC@cheswick.com> References: <20180629075310.GA9477@minnie.tuhs.org> <7A8E301D-D8F7-40DA-9042-ABCA887821EC@cheswick.com> From: "John P. Linderman" Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 08:51:32 -0400 Message-ID: To: "ches@Cheswick.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b94323056fc74e97" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Any Good dmr Anecdotes? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000b94323056fc74e97 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I heard about this second hand, so anyone with first hand knowledge should feel free to correct me. When AT&T took an ill-fated plunge into chip manufacture, our chips were on the large side. Dennis noted that "When Intel spoils a wafer, they turn the chips into tie-tacks. When we spoil a wafer, we turn the chips into belt buckles". This so infuriated the VP in charge of manufacture that he wanted "this dmr guy" fired. Needless to say, that didn't happen. On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 6:53 AM, ches@Cheswick.com wrote: > Dennis, do you have any recommendations on good books to use the learn C? > > I don=E2=80=99t know, I never had to learn C. -dmr > > Message by ches. Tappos by iPad. > > > > On Jun 29, 2018, at 3:53 AM, Warren Toomey wrote: > > > > We do have ken on the list, so I won't be presumptious to ask for > ken-related > > anecdotes, but would anybody like to share some dmr anecdotes? > > > > I never met Dennis in person, but he was generous with his time about m= y > > interest in Unix history; and also with sharing the material he still > had. > > > > Dennis was very clever, though. He would bring out a new artifact and > say: > > well, here's what I still have of X. Pity it will never execute again, > sigh. > > > > I'm sure he knew that I would take that as a challenge. Mind you, it > worked, > > which is why we now have the first Unix kernel in C, the 'nsys' kernel, > and > > the first two C compilers, in executable format. > > > > Any other good anecdotes? > > > > Cheers, Warren > > --000000000000b94323056fc74e97 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I h= eard about this second hand, so anyone with first hand knowledge should fee= l free to correct me.

Whe= n AT&T took an ill-fated plunge into chip manufacture, our chips were o= n the large side. Dennis noted that "When Intel spoils a wafer, they t= urn the chips into tie-tacks. When we spoil a wafer, we turn the chips into= belt buckles". This so infuriated the VP in charge of manufacture tha= t he wanted "this dmr guy" fired. Needless to say, that didn'= t happen.

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 6:53 AM, ches@Cheswick.com &l= t;ches@cheswick.com<= /a>> wrote:
Dennis, do you have= any recommendations on good books to use the learn C?

I don=E2=80=99t know, I never had to learn C.=C2=A0 =C2=A0-dmr

Message by ches. Tappos by iPad.


> On Jun 29, 2018, at 3:53 AM, Warren Toomey <wkt@tuhs.org> wrote:
>
> We do have ken on the list, so I won't be presumptious to ask for = ken-related
> anecdotes, but would anybody like to share some dmr anecdotes?
>
> I never met Dennis in person, but he was generous with his time about = my
> interest in Unix history; and also with sharing the material he still = had.
>
> Dennis was very clever, though. He would bring out a new artifact and = say:
> well, here's what I still have of X. Pity it will never execute ag= ain, sigh.
>
> I'm sure he knew that I would take that as a challenge. Mind you, = it worked,
> which is why we now have the first Unix kernel in C, the 'nsys'= ; kernel, and
> the first two C compilers, in executable format.
>
> Any other good anecdotes?
>
> Cheers, Warren


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