From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 11534 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2020 12:56:40 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 3 Aug 2020 12:56:40 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id E7B849CA98; Mon, 3 Aug 2020 22:56:35 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7591B9CA7F; Mon, 3 Aug 2020 22:55:49 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="JduyT7FU"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 608C79CA80; Mon, 3 Aug 2020 22:55:43 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vk1-f175.google.com (mail-vk1-f175.google.com [209.85.221.175]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F7369CA7F for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2020 22:55:41 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vk1-f175.google.com with SMTP id x187so6327257vkc.1 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2020 05:55:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=oSHUKKAaZX9vMKkgH2P/BJlBn8K9QYNzBGlKg29knL8=; b=JduyT7FUnn86CBu0iYenp4znOvmSoZFtP0YBFFjmDbvqQptyjdbcD0tBbU0i0X2C6Q bBbXTvHwTQdPeYeOYBC5ql9ICfCVoO5kpRacKZq+3y8MdrcSOa8LuTQH6mUDRsaPac03 jNAxt29Rh+4bP4KhHk/oGdbQGHHcqBCHZGzFdkNU3LlM4P+fNxW+eRebbH9drpe2MQUu bhn1k7LpMcDt7Qn6WtXzmETO+Y0pIX0ijOzN49iK4obpJLZhlg7xHf4M263PVnUPevUl Luhvs5hKjolLharnLX+X3pC9TmvK/K1Pa6Q7DgriBmDoYb5Is8Wsq/KNm1lRz7olcamz 4EHg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=oSHUKKAaZX9vMKkgH2P/BJlBn8K9QYNzBGlKg29knL8=; b=C+Qo2xDtIl+ZfrdQUHuNVOwekJNo0n9vghlC4V1Uad2zAd1AmApgihD2GZIqlVwybK hDLz66L3TCk+fhZh4zpFPSuZyKuNp4TnPwKyHbnOs09OLbesLw265nMIzTnMzknPx9ii x1FYHss4cH+TBZkD9Z2JDgALsu6xvQaU8XWYMmvqGnpQSghTbYQTZMeb0U+oHiO26fEu iLQ5jVNbttqzp88jkQGrihYRQgznTZ0p814gG14n0fwPGgT/3LZ28OPiqxzaTQFNHQ9T lwKgYhnGdSrYXCcgI8EV7delrg/TCXlqSbuFovQRYuxvE9lw1GsTG5bYEL5FI/sAL7lv /JQQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5339fsNXfWK/MCC09AbUe+LyxPH+V4QR/+ghhAvEtYJ9ZYqZUEHT icLl1EhzLEVPEKahPHut60IRyCWvA3MwC9mX97wfu4LF X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxixeQGleICLFyeSNFS5KoSUSpu2Inss0DuEwPFA5tYKHN+cRARTDgBTXb2e5jH0AGNU8+5p7BHKj9L57o2Iks= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:5584:: with SMTP id j126mr10673183vkb.25.1596459340657; Mon, 03 Aug 2020 05:55:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202008021340.072Demtg086822@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> <8CF368A4-E75C-4123-8CB8-1E5BFA2E3C24@robdiamond.com> <202008021905.072J53Ug884344@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <0ee2d259-f285-e7b3-e628-3f72127190a0@osta.com> In-Reply-To: <0ee2d259-f285-e7b3-e628-3f72127190a0@osta.com> From: "John P. Linderman" Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 08:55:28 -0400 Message-ID: To: heinz@osta.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e5f83505abf8a7e6" Subject: Re: [TUHS] BTL summer employees X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Unix Heritage Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000e5f83505abf8a7e6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Students living near MH had a bit of a leg up, having access to the Explorers (did that include any young women?). Offspring of employees, particularly executive level employees, seemed to appear quite often. Adam Buchsbaum and Rich Cox and Terry Crowley come to mind. But, as the names I remembered demonstrate, they were exceptionally bright, and often became (valued) regular employees. I share Heinz's recollection about trying to keep them busy. Terry Crowley joined us as a summer student, and we gave him the "summer project" of making some improvements (like eliminating the 512-byte record size limit) to /bin/sort. He came back in under a week and asked "What's next?" -- jpl On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 1:15 AM Heinz Lycklama wrote: > > > On 8/2/2020 12:05 PM, Jon Steinhart wrote: > > I wasn't claiming to be authoritative on who got to be summer students; > it was > > just my observation based on who I ran into. I do remember some other > kids in > > there but not sure how it happened or what became of them; Heinz may > know. My > > first summer a group of underprivileged kids from Newark was brought in. > > It mainly sticks in my mind because one of them was terrified because the > > computer was so much smarter than he was, so someone (Hal Alles?) tasked > him > > with programming a PDP-11/10 via the front panel switches which gave him > a > > completely different perspective. > Jon, this brings back memories of working with summer students and > Explorer Scout high schools students (like yourself) during my years > at Bell Labs in MH. I have to credit Carl Christensen for bringing me > in to work with him in helping making computers and training resources > available to Explorer Scouts on Monday evenings shortly after I started > at Bell Labs in 1969. I enjoyed this time in helping and motivating the > students as well as taking them on hiking and spelunking trips in NY. > I had one summer student work for me on the LSX projects. He was so > brilliant that I had a challenge to keep him busy with the tasks I gave > him because he finished them so quickly. One of the motivations > for doing LSX was actually providing a platform for the music synthesizer > that Hal Alles was building. > > If I can remember any other names for you I will let you know, but > this was more than 45 years ago ... > > Heinz > --000000000000e5f83505abf8a7e6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Stu= dents living near MH had a bit of a leg up, having access to the Explorers = (did that include any young women?). Offspring of employees, particularly e= xecutive level employees, seemed to appear quite often. Adam Buchsbaum and = Rich Cox and Terry Crowley come to mind. But, as the names I remembered dem= onstrate, they were exceptionally=C2=A0bright, and often became (valued) re= gular employees. I share Heinz's recollection about trying to keep them= busy. Terry Crowley joined us as a summer student, and we gave him the &qu= ot;summer project" of making some improvements (like eliminating the 5= 12-byte record size limit) to /bin/sort. He came back in under a week and a= sked "What's next?" -- jpl

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 1:15 A= M Heinz Lycklama <heinz@osta.com&g= t; wrote:


On 8/2/2020 12:05 PM, Jon Steinhart wrote:
> I wasn't claiming to be authoritative on who got to be summer stud= ents; it was
> just my observation based on who I ran into.=C2=A0 I do remember some = other kids in
> there but not sure how it happened or what became of them; Heinz may k= now.=C2=A0 My
> first summer a group of underprivileged kids from Newark was brought i= n.
> It mainly sticks in my mind because one of them was terrified because = the
> computer was so much smarter than he was, so someone (Hal Alles?) task= ed him
> with programming a PDP-11/10 via the front panel switches which gave h= im a
> completely different perspective.
Jon, this brings back memories of working with summer students and
Explorer Scout high schools students (like yourself) during my years
at Bell Labs in MH. I have to credit Carl Christensen for bringing me
in to work with him in helping making computers and training resources
available to Explorer Scouts on Monday evenings shortly after I started
at Bell Labs in 1969. I enjoyed this time in helping and motivating the
students as well as taking them on hiking and spelunking trips in NY.
I had one summer student work for me on the LSX projects. He was so
brilliant that I had a challenge to keep him busy with the tasks I gave
him because he finished them so quickly. One of the motivations
for doing LSX was actually providing a platform for the music synthesizer that Hal Alles was building.

If I can remember any other names for you I will let you know, but
this was more than 45 years ago ...

Heinz
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