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Linderman" Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 19:24:56 -0400 Message-ID: To: jcs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c942b60574d79dd8" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Public access multics X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Unix Heritage Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000c942b60574d79dd8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was at MIT in the late 60's, using Multics when Bell Labs decided to pull out. A problem, in retrospect, was the use of PL/I as the primary language. PL/I was a language designed by a committee, and it showed. It would never have made a plausible systems programming language. But Multics was a lot more fun to use than CTSS, which it replaced. On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 5:27 PM, jcs wrote: > > Will Senn writes: > > So, it looks like someone has gone and started running a multics instance= : >> >> http://lists.nycbug.org/pipermail/semibug/2018-August/000288.html >> >> That=E2=80=99s interesting, and y=E2=80=99all may even have been aware o= f it. But, I was >> thinking that Multics was a failed predecessor of unix and it=E2=80=99s = craziness >> an inspiration for how unix isn=E2=80=99t multics... straighten me out := ) >> > > Failed only in the sense that the Labs withdrew from the project. > Honeywell, which bought out GE's computer division, sold Multics systems, > although I don't remember them being very successful. > > The real mystery is what it's running on. Multics originally ran on the > GE/H 600(0) systems. I doubt any are still around. It's probably a > simulator but I've never heard of one for the H6000. > --000000000000c942b60574d79dd8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I w= as at MIT in the late 60's, using Multics when Bell Labs decided to pul= l out. A problem, in retrospect, was the use of PL/I as the primary languag= e. PL/I was a language designed by a committee, and it showed. It would nev= er have made a plausible systems programming language. But Multics was a lo= t more fun to use than CTSS, which it replaced.

On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 5:27 PM, j= cs <lists@irreal.org> wrote:

Will Senn <will= .senn@gmail.com> writes:

So, it looks like someone has gone and started running a multics instance:<= br>
http://lists.nycbug.org/piperm= ail/semibug/2018-August/000288.html

That=E2=80=99s interesting, and y=E2=80=99all may even have been aware of i= t. But, I was thinking that Multics was a failed predecessor of unix and it= =E2=80=99s craziness an inspiration for how unix isn=E2=80=99t multics... s= traighten me out :)

Failed only in the sense that the Labs withdrew from the project. Honeywell= , which bought out GE's computer division, sold Multics systems, althou= gh I don't remember them being very successful.

The real mystery is what it's running on. Multics originally ran on the= GE/H 600(0) systems. I doubt any are still around. It's probably a sim= ulator but I've never heard of one for the H6000.

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