From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 6ee7653b for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2020 22:02:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 285F79BCBF; Thu, 9 Jan 2020 08:02:40 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59E7F9BCB5; Thu, 9 Jan 2020 08:02:06 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="qxRxEjWI"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 4F3C29BCAE; Thu, 9 Jan 2020 08:02:04 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qk1-f182.google.com (mail-qk1-f182.google.com [209.85.222.182]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FD83945FC for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2020 08:02:03 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qk1-f182.google.com with SMTP id z76so4191550qka.2 for ; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 14:02:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=RRVcsvFj0rMxb4YBPqbKWDHr2zMSmo9oEr808uRzZbg=; b=qxRxEjWIlzSPsWrT6AHEfpOGwCH2v/ud4aBggv8DIyd8TQ8nKKv8t4LrE8MZGBWWyQ +DmO6G6AExTvxr9+1vCQnJjtOwBbpbvOn8VyDYxl2VAXUUHKi01o7Pmj1UpDAnt954hI K1x7s7G35eVSX24u4vuUOc5YIEk8L14OZDrS0= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=RRVcsvFj0rMxb4YBPqbKWDHr2zMSmo9oEr808uRzZbg=; b=I3fF/8JfWVyvu/L1UprzSRspwTxSiKSftlhCbok/eEaDU2ad6BsneWX90aJoAwqHf4 TB+dbM97kt2Za1AUi7+JlX+6n5LeIinS7/jP3SPNTsMrlLXGmAaJfCHVt6H9NGq+yTZl 0unn9CY/8uRsZ49/6u3dh9gu6t6v8G/fpABG6cC6p+nzhkdtEQFxOUU6soguvf3rWIE0 j5TqmT7g8FRePvcARInB3TybvowLHOg/fUpQFAyP3V1sK7l27Hp9fpAmZcQX3mIEhHt2 cEpOxcLnH2HxpfH9antqdyrdJ1WTF1o1uyzX4ONLrk/qql5RCOvwOvmOa83iStnDrjEh juqg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUWiREq8o9p9XKi0fSB8rjk3KMx3J445YaF9rJghnk7va0HzXZc sjribRkW9BAf02i0x0PTjk3KFMH+sWneTuvwgvV9L8ZT0Po= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxZGJ5RvZ4/a5VPZp+kNaaCgevBQL0rZFwF6c/Ttdbb7X2tUsMnOBbyMejfnwTQlhZsP0JOyKnjGPESBQd0n2A= X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:6cc:: with SMTP id 12mr6762115qky.307.1578520922622; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 14:02:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9c507ef665851fd21ecdf0e23136dc86@firemail.de> In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 17:01:35 -0500 Message-ID: To: Dave Horsfall Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000dd1f09059ba80a3a" Subject: Re: [TUHS] screen editors X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000dd1f09059ba80a3a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 4:50 PM Dave Horsfall wrote: > I had a boss once who insisted that all his staff learn "ed", because one > day it might be the only editor available; he was right... > I always suggest it. It means you can use sed and lot of other tools pretty quick. And if you know ed, you can use almost anything close to it. I hated DOS's edlin but if I was stuck it was close enough. Although the famous ? error from the original version was annoying. Truly, I still suggest that any modern user, take Rob and Brian's book and until you can do the exercises without think about it, you really are not yet comfortable with UNIX. I even recommend at least read and looking at the chapter on nroff. Clem --000000000000dd1f09059ba80a3a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 4:50 = PM Dave Horsfall <dave@horsfall.org= > wrote:
= I had a boss once who insisted that all his staff learn "ed", bec= ause one
day it might be the only editor available; he was right...
=
I always suggest it.=C2=A0 It means you can use sed and lot of oth= er tools pretty quick.=C2=A0
And if you know ed, you ca= n use almost anything close to it.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I hated DOS's edlin but = if I was stuck it was close enough.

Although the famou= s ? error from the original version was annoying.

Trul= y, I still suggest that any modern user, take Rob and Brian's book and = until you can do the exercises without think about it, you really are not y= et comfortable with UNIX.=C2=A0 I even recommend at least read and looking = at the chapter on nroff.

Clem

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