From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id d461891f for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 14:58:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 9BFAA9BD08; Thu, 29 Aug 2019 00:58:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F98D9BC99; Thu, 29 Aug 2019 00:58:00 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="RS9u7lDT"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id E2F889BCEC; Thu, 29 Aug 2019 00:57:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-wr1-f54.google.com (mail-wr1-f54.google.com [209.85.221.54]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E57E9BD16 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2019 00:57:39 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-wr1-f54.google.com with SMTP id g7so149177wrx.2 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 07:57:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=RJqnevY4VilO1nwRRshjEVmfRkU72yp4Vrwcg2dtxWY=; b=RS9u7lDT1OuAnDs4I9p/lQ790/Kga55rmPJtno1dGs6/zanDb107vFE5s27LZ9LOyo MJg5UpTFIuP3hLSgrgzYbmtDV8gUMtzGoz2Io8Ka/wZz0ixxNtqc02YgHcES/j5WGmRN Hhrf0A095Em+VkOu3T4GxZWcf3Lz04NbhiMDE= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=RJqnevY4VilO1nwRRshjEVmfRkU72yp4Vrwcg2dtxWY=; b=OIUweAJtR0QWglQdmUbP+/aP/44RmqqhwUM/0oFouvKm7S2J4YlgtKXEyMaufKICUt NhaYz2EWacwpD1lyLsB17hVH/75NQ5eskRye93PEvrKOQyo9/jNm2kJbAYGLSEpZ1bHH BVjNrnDvYUwDjyDjfkzpTNcJYrhIzP/gyRoabYxJkz/O5xVkdT9q3IxuCTwt0Ehxub+A rlchNZGapvKjpGcebZmEvAJ9YJFXsWagY3pf3YaKohBKyMh8LRbJwQNmWvmERlnivI8o M8v3ToY2b+ALKC4OPe5S/jvwguxC53+xeQ225rf6sk58xehAnFVl8+nxc3BkOCXfhVrt pRQQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUO8isaoaRqY8s8MVxMW9hdy39UyjhcP39jOTuz7Bw5EXODDjfU b2Hp6LHzxcI3RHvK4v5sLjWRQUVjhrcqNn5ny5vjUZiLAv8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxyG6ZX2nBqBW8Qc8dezpYQYmN/+VDTybfbUBw8JijQ7Sd0zUgEDe2n94n/46CKxmugtC3UDwYfPuGKGiVWCus= X-Received: by 2002:adf:ff84:: with SMTP id j4mr4999512wrr.71.1567004257748; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 07:57:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190827024511.GU13570@mcvoy.com> <20190827145556.GD13570@mcvoy.com> <20190827224002.GB15511@mcvoy.com> <20190827225955.GC15511@mcvoy.com> <20190828040540.GT13570@mcvoy.com> <20190828143140.GU13570@mcvoy.com> In-Reply-To: <20190828143140.GU13570@mcvoy.com> From: Clem Cole Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 10:57:11 -0400 Message-ID: To: Larry McVoy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000251fd905912e9c91" Subject: Re: [TUHS] If not Linux, then what? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000251fd905912e9c91 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Could be. I'm not sure I can date it, On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 10:31 AM Larry McVoy wrote: > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 09:52:42AM -0400, Clem Cole wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 12:06 AM Larry McVoy wrote: > > > > > I could be wrong but that's my memory. What he told me was streams was > > > for line disciplines for tty drivers. > > > > > > > Rob - this syncs with what Dennis I had talked about too *i.e.* Using > > streams for the serial interface; as the line disciplines stuff was a > mess > > by that point. I cannt say I remember talking to him about using streams > > for networking. > > If my memory is right, I would have talked to Dennis about it around > 1987 or early 1988. Is it possible that was before they did networking > in streams? > > Maybe I have the dates wrong but my guess is I talked to him about it > before the networking stuff was done in research Unix. So his view > may have evolved. > --000000000000251fd905912e9c91 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Could be.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I'm not sure I can date it,

On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 10:31 AM Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 09:52:42AM -0400, Clem Co= le wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 12:06 AM Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com> wrote:
>
> > I could be wrong but that's my memory.=C2=A0 What he told me = was streams was
> > for line disciplines for tty drivers.
> >
>
> Rob - this syncs with what Dennis I had talked about too *i.e.* Using<= br> > streams for the serial interface; as the line disciplines stuff was a = mess
> by that point.=C2=A0 I cannt say I remember talking to him about using= streams
> for networking.=C2=A0 =C2=A0

If my memory is right, I would have talked to Dennis about it around
1987 or early 1988.=C2=A0 Is it possible that was before they did networkin= g
in streams?=C2=A0

Maybe I have the dates wrong but my guess is I talked to him about it
before the networking stuff was done in research Unix.=C2=A0 So his view may have evolved.
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