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From: clemc@ccc.com (Clem Cole)
Subject: [TUHS] The evolution of Unix facilities and architecture
Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 11:17:02 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC20D2M81oWA6MHbXCXcwUDxhU+q18USAK9Ek6m4QzF3o36BJw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170512151256.B27CE18C09A@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>

George Gobble of Purdue did the FS work to V7/4.1 to fix the FS corruption
issues.   That was taken back by Kirk (wnj) and incorporated in 4.1A.    It
may have been before USENIX was creating proceedings.   I'll have to look
on my shelf at home or maybe ask George.

Clem

On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Noel Chiappa <jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
wrote:

>     > From: "Ron Natalie"
>
>     > Ordered writes go back to the original BSD fast file system, no?  I
> seem
>     > to recall that when we switched from our V6/V7 disks, the filesystem
> got
>     > a lot more stable in crashes.
>
> I had a vague memory of reading about that, so I looked in the canonical
> FFS
> paper (McKusick et al, "A Fast File System for UNIX" [1984)]) but found no
> mention of it.
>
> I did find a paper about 'fsck' (McKusick, Kowalski, "Fsck: The UNIX File
> System Check Program") which talks (in Section 2.5. "Updates to the file
> system") about how "problem[s] with asynchronous inode updates can be
> avoided
> by doing all inode deallocations synchronously", but it's not clear if
> they're
> talking about something that was actually done, or just saying
> (hypothetically) that that's how one would fix it.
>
> Is is possible that the changes to the file system (e.g. the way free
> blocks
> were kept) made it more crash-proof?
>
>      Noel
>
>
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Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-12 15:12 Noel Chiappa
2017-05-12 15:17 ` Clem Cole [this message]
2017-05-12 15:18   ` Clem Cole
2017-05-12 15:46     ` Clem Cole
     [not found] <mailman.1.1494986402.2329.tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
2017-05-19 14:31 ` David
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-05-16 13:20 Noel Chiappa
2017-05-16 13:46 ` Clem Cole
2017-05-14 21:44 Noel Chiappa
2017-05-13  1:25 Noel Chiappa
2017-05-13  0:44 Noel Chiappa
2017-05-13  0:51 ` Random832
2017-05-13  0:55   ` Dave Horsfall
2017-05-13  1:17   ` Chris Torek
2017-05-13 15:25   ` Steve Simon
2017-05-13 16:55     ` Clem Cole
2017-05-13 17:19       ` William Pechter
2017-05-14 12:55         ` Derek Fawcus
2017-05-14 22:12           ` Dave Horsfall
2017-05-15  1:24             ` Nemo
2017-05-15 18:00               ` Steve Johnson
2017-05-16 22:33                 ` Ron Natalie
2017-05-16 23:13                   ` Arthur Krewat
2017-05-16 23:18                     ` Ron Natalie
2017-05-13 23:01     ` Dave Horsfall
2017-05-12 23:30 Noel Chiappa
2017-05-12 23:38 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-05-12 23:52   ` Random832
2017-05-13  0:26     ` Dave Horsfall
2017-05-13  0:48       ` Random832
2017-05-13  0:22 ` Clem Cole
2017-05-13  0:23   ` Clem Cole
2017-05-12 18:43 Doug McIlroy
2017-05-12 18:56 ` Dan Cross
2017-05-12 19:43   ` Clem Cole
2017-05-12 20:06     ` Clem Cole
2017-05-12 20:40       ` Jeremy C. Reed
2017-05-12 21:29         ` Clem Cole
2017-05-12 21:29   ` Ron Natalie
2017-05-11 17:08 Noel Chiappa
2017-05-11 21:34 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-05-11 14:07 Noel Chiappa
2017-05-11 14:21 ` Larry McVoy
2017-05-11 16:17   ` Clem Cole
2017-05-11 17:11     ` Michael Kjörling
2017-05-11 21:44       ` Dave Horsfall
2017-05-11 22:06         ` Warner Losh
2017-05-12  6:24         ` Hellwig Geisse
2017-05-12 21:12           ` Dave Horsfall
2017-05-12 23:25             ` Hellwig Geisse
2017-05-11 16:15 ` Clem Cole
2017-05-11 16:52   ` Warner Losh
2017-05-11 17:12     ` Clem Cole
2017-05-11 20:37       ` Ron Natalie
2017-05-11 22:25         ` Larry McVoy
2017-05-11 22:30           ` Ron Natalie
2017-05-11 23:47           ` Dave Horsfall
2017-05-11 23:48             ` Ron Natalie
2017-05-12  0:21               ` Larry McVoy
2017-05-12  2:42                 ` Warner Losh
2017-05-12  0:16             ` Larry McVoy
2017-05-12  1:41               ` Wesley Parish
2017-05-12  1:05             ` Toby Thain
2017-05-12  8:17               ` Michael Kjörling
2017-05-12 13:56                 ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-05-12 14:22                   ` Michael Kjörling
2017-05-12 14:30                   ` Larry McVoy
2017-05-12 15:11                     ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-05-12 15:52                     ` Chet Ramey
2017-05-12 16:21                       ` Warner Losh
2017-05-12  8:15             ` Harald Arnesen
2017-05-14  4:30           ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-05-14 17:40             ` Clem Cole
2017-05-10 14:08 Diomidis Spinellis
2017-05-10 14:38 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-05-10 23:09   ` Erik Berls
2017-05-11 12:40     ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-05-11  0:49 ` Clem Cole

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