From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: (qmail 29012 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2020 14:42:21 -0000 Received-SPF: pass (minnie.tuhs.org: domain of minnie.tuhs.org designates 45.79.103.53 as permitted sender) receiver=inbox.vuxu.org; client-ip=45.79.103.53 envelope-from= Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with UTF8ESMTPZ; 30 Mar 2020 14:42:21 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 04BF89D9C2; Tue, 31 Mar 2020 00:42:15 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5719D713; Tue, 31 Mar 2020 00:41:52 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="sE08JhQT"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 9773A9D712; Tue, 31 Mar 2020 00:41:50 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qk1-f175.google.com (mail-qk1-f175.google.com [209.85.222.175]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D8929D711 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2020 00:41:49 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qk1-f175.google.com with SMTP id c145so19101207qke.12 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 07:41:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=L6XaWWMCJGQN00sQcKcYDrJEylu2Rq2sQm9cV9Obm+I=; b=sE08JhQTHfGSrkNo7vZjPtve6WozLORHOsb6GK+gOuDqYdORxICLJajFUblCHgLnlf fY+3WHw7Zq88pb+7JdRDAr+OxnqK4s2nCCjVHKotJgi6m1SQb1g9+VNjx5apkCII1v5R Kq2IG0UmQ7MWRHTkxvWe5q4rMuS5uUOOSb50I= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=L6XaWWMCJGQN00sQcKcYDrJEylu2Rq2sQm9cV9Obm+I=; b=RsLe1MinViSwa0jxIp+KuBNJ4yaZwD/jl3p97h8pLty/bwO+SFyZKoxzDKlJob5/r+ 8jHB6LVH2vKSzCVU7nAqDn+XDMIRSkh7yyERUBBwVUOxqhdkTGbMEc4qZ5p9vE40e1Hr uzd/e1uUmYk+Mj1Tu+htsXDlX5ja/Kp5zKN0Ji4dx4/E7ZtBARPZQyi3fnCAZWn+Hd9G czRInTkoLzQcZAHf17W+M4ALA+EWGDdLSfzIhw/Le7rj2RPbw+08chsgWGNGexsiDhW4 j9cdjNcV6MUfhJrzChOW0ReDevKE3+Z4cOoRXkhNDEQnnBZK86VC5vHbZeFhHOrU35Z+ Dfcg== X-Gm-Message-State: ANhLgQ2JBunhQ0ggo4LvJ6B4Yr8eNWpdco/lD6lUM928r6b9KhVc+czh CSPR2C5tQPw3SiMi2EpU/zw1S7aDJHTs0UOc6FRfYe7AAqM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADFU+vt1ckQhPTu3uVEOIrtkwYBZS1NKPpTTbEBYRQACH/S87Z4wTiViQj+DJTpdo4CKm3SkC+OZUf63ggFdC4LQjD4= X-Received: by 2002:a37:9d8f:: with SMTP id g137mr256269qke.133.1585579308280; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 07:41:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20C3B8BE-E371-4694-8A34-EEC6A5461FAD@planet.nl> <202003291404.02TE4dAI022916@freefriends.org> <2298456D-A786-40C2-9C68-26C99E2002E1@planet.nl> In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 10:41:22 -0400 Message-ID: To: "Jeremy C. Reed" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000006f0a5605a2137373" Subject: Re: [TUHS] 8th Edition timeline X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --0000000000006f0a5605a2137373 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeremy -- Sytek - that was it -- thank you. Sunnyvale/Mt. View -- who can tell the difference? ;-) Thanks again, Clem On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:21 AM wrote: > On Mon, 30 Mar 2020, Clem Cole wrote: > > ... > > kernel support to?handle?select(2) properly).? I remember talking to Sa= m > (arguing > > with him most probably) about it one night before it was fully created.= ? > ?Iwant > > to say, he had worked on something similar at the firm he was at (the > firm > > name I now forget -- si-mumble -- they were in Mt. View) before he join= ed > > CRSG.? I don't remember now the issues I had, but I do remember it was = a > bit > > of mess to support the way the AP hardware assumed it could do DMA on t= he > > UBA[2] > > From my notes: > > After graduating, Leffler got a job in the Silicon Valley > at Sytek, a small firm in Sunnyvale. > % CITE: archives/csrg-archives/disk1/mnt/2.79/usenet/netdir/sites/sytek > They used a PDP 11/45 and moved to a VAX 11/750 running VM/UNIX > with four 300 baud ACU's (Automatic Call Units aka ``modems``) --- > they marketed a broadband network to > connect thousands of stations using coaxial cable over a distance > of 40 miles. > % maybe CITE: > http://books.google.com/books?id=3DAyZfLaxYr9YC&pg=3DPA43&lpg=3DPA43&dq= =3D > > %28408%29+734-9000++sytek&source=3Dbl&ots=3DSYGI9rBAOV&sig=3DrxBo1SgfqdTL= uNotXaa59nrR6 > > C4&hl=3Den&sa=3DX&ei=3DCzbwUJTjI6HN2QX48oGIAw&ved=3D0CEAQ6AEwBA#v=3Donepa= ge&q=3D%28408%29%20 > 734-9000%20%20sytek&f=3Dfalse > > Since they were using a VAX and he had kept in touch with Joy, he was > a beta-test site for 4BSD.\cite{salus1994} > > % NOTE: about sytek: an ad to find employees > % > http://books.google.com/books?id=3DChMAmfS1nEkC&pg=3DPA85&lpg=3DPA85&dq= =3D%28408%29+734 > > -9000++sytek&source=3Dbl&ots=3DaS_yQznXAy&sig=3D6vA7NTbspu3gcf_jT2sOiUSRP= ZU&hl=3Den&sa=3DX > > &ei=3DCzbwUJTjI6HN2QX48oGIAw&ved=3D0CC4Q6AEwAA#v=3Donepage&q=3D%28408%29%= 20734-9000%20%2 > 0sytek&f=3Dfalse > > > % NOTE: not to take over since no Sun then > Leffler went to Berkeley to work with Joy\cite{billshannon2} in the > fall of 1981.\cite{salus1994}. > --0000000000006f0a5605a2137373 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jeremy -- Sytek - that was it -- thank you.=C2=A0 =C2= =A0Sunnyvale/Mt. View -- who can tell the difference?=C2=A0 ;-)
Thanks again,
Clem

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:21 AM = <reed@reedmedia.net> wrote:=
On Mon, 30 Mar = 2020, Clem Cole wrote:

...
> kernel support to?handle?select(2) properly).? I remember talking to S= am (arguing
> with him most probably) about it one night before it was fully created= .? ?Iwant
> to say, he had worked on something similar at the firm he was at (the = firm
> name I now forget -- si-mumble -- they were in Mt. View) before he joi= ned
> CRSG.? I don't remember now the issues I had, but I do remember it= was a bit
> of mess to support the way the AP hardware assumed it could do DMA on = the
> UBA[2]

>From my notes:

After graduating, Leffler got a job in the Silicon Valley
at Sytek, a small firm in Sunnyvale.
% CITE: archives/csrg-archives/disk1/mnt/2.79/usenet/netdir/sites/sytek
They used a PDP 11/45 and moved to a VAX 11/750 running VM/UNIX
with four 300 baud ACU's (Automatic Call Units aka ``modems``) ---
they marketed a broadband network to
connect thousands of stations using coaxial cable over a distance
of 40 miles.
% maybe CITE:
http://books.google.com/books?id=3DAyZfLaxYr9YC&pg=3DPA43&lpg= =3DPA43&dq=3D
%28408%29+734-9000++sytek&source=3Dbl&ots=3DSYGI9rBAOV&sig=3Drx= Bo1SgfqdTLuNotXaa59nrR6
C4&hl=3Den&sa=3DX&ei=3DCzbwUJTjI6HN2QX48oGIAw&ved=3D0CEAQ6A= EwBA#v=3Donepage&q=3D%28408%29%20
734-9000%20%20sytek&f=3Dfalse
Since they were using a VAX and he had kept in touch with Joy, he was
a beta-test site for 4BSD.\cite{salus1994}

% NOTE: about sytek: an ad to find employees
%http://books.google.com/books?id=3DChMAmfS1nEkC&pg=3DPA85&lpg= =3DPA85&dq=3D%28408%29+734
-9000++sytek&source=3Dbl&ots=3DaS_yQznXAy&sig=3D6vA7NTbspu3gcf_= jT2sOiUSRPZU&hl=3Den&sa=3DX
&ei=3DCzbwUJTjI6HN2QX48oGIAw&ved=3D0CC4Q6AEwAA#v=3Donepage&q=3D= %28408%29%20734-9000%20%2
0sytek&f=3Dfalse

% NOTE: not to take over since no Sun then
Leffler went to Berkeley to work with Joy\cite{billshannon2} in the
fall of 1981.\cite{salus1994}.
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