From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 14404 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2022 15:25:36 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 30 Jun 2022 15:25:36 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE13406F5; Fri, 1 Jul 2022 01:25:00 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-wr1-f45.google.com (mail-wr1-f45.google.com [209.85.221.45]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4D8840145 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2022 01:24:55 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-wr1-f45.google.com with SMTP id k7so3343608wrc.12 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2022 08:24:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ScSYDkTHEks6S8AHMUzR9x4sEYYIwgq1wqpV8JcmuL0=; b=ERNGs2G86HGgrW8L45H3rQnmx22QIZrtjyekKQxr9KhbWLm85OyICGn0jGPG/eADEs mDcbLd29R9NOpcEWnyztGNHJyS9D8fWzcdSEC1aR5vhbL7H2CZCGRhpRx8XWiSBTA51z sgu945R2Nj2TYiSsqTmwp0dbQ7uVn/SPSGcbM= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ScSYDkTHEks6S8AHMUzR9x4sEYYIwgq1wqpV8JcmuL0=; b=NKc7OgaZ/wThFKVsVn0Ec6zg6XhOWDWzzRpVXnJwJbMi/F4luS+vcevVgIej3YlDrg SR/INxPe/K+hbMqF9Gmmdg8tsk9mf/IFG5xCk2gbkE/YflM/K1fQaVbVhTFpnD0qcvyZ q3GXjUHeOJCCZFquL+rOMtwA4n4/n57GyUl6SiCgxt1oCmWql+LfIWt6+S0kxtD9Hy7M S5o3wLOxS/LL9iCKhoVJlOGys2GcWGOAE3RCKc4Wemjlbvpvk6h6Hog2cEw9b8oVSWEP emp5jFOYyRVr0jxAyjp0bwjQdrm/rf37ASWxylIV2cUoLiHc+IcdZddHd6nGZiHp9Hwk TN1w== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora9ZF15SCQ9HEYSiLbNYtb4fkJS9qYuWw3O5wrol6nmp5fQ0+PAU HzCZJHHJIoNV6GWnJCrUvkPIllgxZf1/B6WECCtZ2xFIXUc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1sAB6AD6FXVLSNBqIl+bFdLknINLUm/Hf5/tqyWPXQYGeAZ/u5LtiHY9Hqsg17iLnMVEKnIG1VKpAoh6TLXZdU= X-Received: by 2002:adf:e104:0:b0:21b:9938:b07a with SMTP id t4-20020adfe104000000b0021b9938b07amr9118718wrz.682.1656602634145; Thu, 30 Jun 2022 08:23:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <180245D1-0DCD-4C2C-A26A-EF68578FD548@canb.auug.org.au> In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2022 11:23:27 -0400 Message-ID: To: Marc Donner Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008aed6305e2abdb7c" Message-ID-Hash: WGYULC36I6DDQHU7XOJ4IECCJ5CEQ3OM X-Message-ID-Hash: WGYULC36I6DDQHU7XOJ4IECCJ5CEQ3OM X-MailFrom: clemc@ccc.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: steve jenkin , TUHS X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: "9 skills our grandkids won't have" - Is this a TUHS topic? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --0000000000008aed6305e2abdb7c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable - that goes with >>dialing<< the phone and putting it in the rubber cups after you hear the tone from the FSK modem at that other end. - putting your deck into run queue and waiting for your turn to get 5 seconds of compile and 3 seconds of CPU time for a student job - being limited to > .5M of storage (if you had any at all) - If you were an operator - handing a tape change request - starting/stopping the batch system to let students' jobs run - changing the print train - moving a plot tape from the computer to the plotter for output - changing disks - what a disk crash actually sounds like (and looks like on the platters= ) =E1=90=A7 On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 9:41 AM Marc Donner wrote: > Programming an 026 skip card. Inserting the skip card. > Using ed in kernel safe mode to fix a broken config file. > Threading a half-inch tape in a tape drive. Remembering to insert or > remove the write ring. > Cleaning floppy disk heads. > Manually keying a boot program into an SDS-930. > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > nygeek.net > mindthegapdialogs.com/home > > > On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 9:14 AM steve jenkin > wrote: > >> What are the 1970=E2=80=99s & 1980=E2=80=99s Computing / IT skills =E2= =80=9Cour grandkids won=E2=80=99t >> have=E2=80=9D? >> >> Whistling into a telephone while the modem is attached, because your >> keyboard has a stuck key >> - something I absolutely don=E2=80=99t miss. >> >> Having a computer in a grimy wharehouse with 400 days of uptime & >> wondering how a reboot might go? >> >> steve j >> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> >> 9 Skills Our Grandkids Will Never Have >> < >> https://blog.myheritage.com/2022/06/9-skills-our-grandkids-will-never-ha= ve/ >> > >> >> 1: Using record players, audio cassettes, and VCRs >> 2: Using analog phones >> [ or an Analog Clock ] >> 3. Writing letters by hand and mailing them >> 4. Reading and writing in cursive >> 5. Using manual research methods = [ >> this is a Genealogy site ] >> 6. Preparing food the old-fashioned way >> 7. Creating and mending clothing >> 8. Building furniture from scratch >> 9. Speaking the languages of their ancestors >> >> -- >> Steve Jenkin, IT Systems and Design >> 0412 786 915 (+61 412 786 915) >> PO Box 38, Kippax ACT 2615, AUSTRALIA >> >> mailto:sjenkin@canb.auug.org.au http://members.tip.net.au/~sjenkin >> >> --0000000000008aed6305e2abdb7c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

  • that goes with >>dialing<= < the phone and putting it in the rubber cups after you hear the tone fr= om the FSK modem at that other end.
  • putting your deck into run queu= e and waiting for your turn to get 5 seconds of compile and 3 seconds of CP= U time for a student job=C2=A0
  • being limited to > .5M of storage= (if you had any at all)
  • If you were an operator
    • handin= g a tape change request
    • starting/stopping the batch system to let s= tudents' jobs run
    • changing=C2=A0the print train
    • moving = a plot tape from the computer to the plotter for output
    • changing di= sks=C2=A0
  • what a disk crash actually sounds like (and looks li= ke on the platters)
3D""=E1=90=A7

On Thu, Jun 30,= 2022 at 9:41 AM Marc Donner <m= arc.donner@gmail.com> wrote:
Programming an 026 skip car= d.=C2=A0 Inserting the skip card.
Using ed in kernel safe= mode to fix a broken config file.
Threading a half-inch t= ape in a tape drive.=C2=A0 Remembering to insert or remove the write ring.<= /div>
Cleaning floppy disk heads.
Manually keying= a boot program into an SDS-930.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 9:14 AM steve jenkin <sjenkin@canb.auug.org.au> w= rote:
What are t= he 1970=E2=80=99s & 1980=E2=80=99s Computing / IT skills =E2=80=9Cour g= randkids won=E2=80=99t have=E2=80=9D?

Whistling into a telephone while the modem is attached, because your keyboa= rd has a stuck key
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- something I absolutely don=E2=80=99t mi= ss.

Having a computer in a grimy wharehouse with 400 days of uptime & wonde= ring how a reboot might go?

steve j

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

9 Skills Our Grandkids Will Never Have
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <https://blog.myheritage.com/2022/06/9-skills-our-grandkids-will-neve= r-have/>

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 1: Using record players, audio cassettes, and V= CRs
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 2: Using analog phones=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 [ or an Analog Clock ]
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 3. Writing letters by hand and mailing them
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 4. Reading and writing in cursive
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 5. Using manual research methods=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 [ this is a Genealogy site ]
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 6. Preparing food the old-fashioned way
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 7. Creating and mending clothing
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 8. Building furniture from scratch
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 9. Speaking the languages of their ancestors
--
Steve Jenkin, IT Systems and Design
0412 786 915 (+61 412 786 915)
PO Box 38, Kippax ACT 2615, AUSTRALIA

mailto:sjenki= n@canb.auug.org.au http://members.tip.net.au/~sjenkin
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