From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 19096 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2020 13:59:11 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 6 Jul 2020 13:59:11 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 9B1FE9C739; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 23:59:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8AEF94598; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 23:58:21 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="P8x+jx4A"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 7ADF394598; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 23:58:18 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qt1-f179.google.com (mail-qt1-f179.google.com [209.85.160.179]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3654B94588 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 23:58:17 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qt1-f179.google.com with SMTP id v19so28949811qtq.10 for ; Mon, 06 Jul 2020 06:58:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=dZdOtcb9AuMV3EmTW24OepI8ePySgHCV41tOELL7p8Y=; b=P8x+jx4Ab465H3UXkFFwUsRwTrSipxkiOOwE1JyAjrUnd2E1mgLqD2BqvHaO8hviNq +H8Bqm/dQIw8ed601A/j/UZIXRFdcwCK644V3p2oVo7Ns+q6G3UtsvGwaDaUFqabmpZh iDe1WKGohS/N4fOdOCQlxDTPb2kUdHmYYl0Js= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=dZdOtcb9AuMV3EmTW24OepI8ePySgHCV41tOELL7p8Y=; b=remr/4LToP50ex0cKC5suf3cMMsHwxyJ35kl/rEmj4nYKvFuOOv3cS9h0wHUqw/wjR YTE4FAPAEn5vgh3Hfd16jQukXA/9WYwszMYuQcfw/rWT+2ZJzZcLj3ZwGWwja5XIEAyO CdUiawthxuPGUdeJ9YuhylrdLiRuNrcTjhO1UFmTFbZVoOvxrXwgZfjWiofXUTel8R92 0QIhXs7CgErEOmPyitcbqV5lyYx9jBzg8QGwebia0jUUHWTCygUzYneZ62PQoobwOiy6 MkbiOsx5auusxK9YPssu8JCfqNF0WV/uABRRXx82tUvX/C+CxGfCv9rxII29ky3s4tp1 YZGQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530mSFhkRkCv8BKfYxSADjSKvK6VKSQ+ju++kb8I2zjkDKgNy17d fORp0xK8fHJTGR2cVw51EgTlLU9CrPohWuW6712IIw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJycl9CHtplr/bQzYbkdwhSv/ZIUHd71qBcT8bugGCR1e8dcLtebORw1oD/pYo/RAJQ1oTdgVjGeHTTI4bcatcY= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:130d:: with SMTP id e13mr49788905qtj.253.1594043896084; Mon, 06 Jul 2020 06:58:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 09:57:49 -0400 Message-ID: To: Dave Horsfall Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000002ed51005a9c64438" Subject: Re: [TUHS] v7 uucp debugging help requested X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --0000000000002ed51005a9c64438 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I always recommend doing the exercises in Rob and Brian's UPE on ed because then everything else makes sense, like sed or any other editor. Plus you get the advantage you point out, and the reality is that so many simpler editors (like edlin) have similar functionality, it means you can get something done, just about anywhere. On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 12:14 AM Dave Horsfall wrote: > On Sat, 4 Jul 2020, Adam Thornton wrote: > > > Since I find ed thoroughly unpleasant to use, having a screen editor was > > a must for me to use v7 for any length of time, and s fills that role > > rather nicely. > > A boss of mine insisted that we all learned "ed", because one day it might > be the only editor available to you after a crash; he was right... > > -- Dave > --0000000000002ed51005a9c64438 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I always recommend=C2=A0doing the exercises=C2=A0in Rob= and Brian's UPE on ed because then everything else makes sense, like s= ed or any other editor.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Plus you get the advantage you point ou= t, and the reality is that=C2=A0so many simpler=C2=A0editors (like edlin) h= ave similar functionality, it means you can get something done, just about = anywhere.

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 12:14 AM Dave Horsfall <dave@horsfall.org> wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jul 2020, Adam Tho= rnton wrote:

> Since I find ed thoroughly unpleasant to use, having a screen editor w= as
> a must for me to use v7 for any length of time, and s fills that role =
> rather nicely.

A boss of mine insisted that we all learned "ed", because one day= it might
be the only editor available to you after a crash; he was right...

-- Dave
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