From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id a62a3223 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2018 14:05:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 5600BA21AB; Fri, 2 Nov 2018 00:05:29 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFAA4A2152; Fri, 2 Nov 2018 00:05:12 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 0FDC9A2152; Thu, 1 Nov 2018 22:58:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-wm1-f51.google.com (mail-wm1-f51.google.com [209.85.128.51]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D215BA214E for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2018 22:58:06 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-wm1-f51.google.com with SMTP id l2-v6so1259205wmh.3 for ; Thu, 01 Nov 2018 05:58:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Gn7vuLv4Bl1dw0aI3mQAoQj/phV7EhIukNc1OwfaQNc=; b=fjgwIxDypH2a2UVZJh+3Wv5KxSI+pTc0EUKDK0FGsJh2LsimhpxNtTbqrSzDah0kMC IkyGa4mciX1tPfsozws3zHqol3D8cScMSHGWK0395vpOedEBZLw9l6GFnFTS0kVox1bu QdgjE90Qn8NwaQjRkDNqPsyOjPnBYRK3HPNNA= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Gn7vuLv4Bl1dw0aI3mQAoQj/phV7EhIukNc1OwfaQNc=; b=BfuQ8nmUeCjPXJoaFZlCaicVJ//JHWvfrzBX7ozS/aiavhwfUyMb+FNiYZ4vRcDiuc XV3/Wxzs8rbgbqNCShOMIVQH8cVwcxvy3s2Clx5r66cJyr63SxqHGpq6bsvwuUhxFf84 cSLaw5LRfi8XbyizmF73TpsgPFXIRO7Urk6/Y4VSy4LTKgKZzIx7l52EZ4xyQHB7SPds Qe5BxnFap2sly8kOmqieQy5FYXqWXuiGPQP/EuqGd1iQba59yqYdspwUBS3P1e9hgrER Kg0E//hiszZJ0X5xRaM72v+6y/f2z/H40MR937Q8fXfnoooD5wvZySU6LItng0jdCy+x di7w== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gKyp6Kg+WsQaSZRK9WClsu0YULu+o6BrowGSgQpGXpcYrM6VZTI qo4PVvrHzhWXd6r0B9zQMFYKAsehKKc6xlps/ntPFeU3+AI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5d1F/1kG57CDy7AlSzrwMWJeiaMJwQ3lyF/7Kn9BZ8RPqUKbvG5Cd3QDu4IviKjtaE5yDXrs8MnshPoAonNTPw= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:b5ce:: with SMTP id e197-v6mr3781136wmf.30.1541077085381; Thu, 01 Nov 2018 05:58:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20181031043810.GA10775@minnie.tuhs.org> <20181101074231.GA4844@vagabond> In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 08:57:39 -0400 Message-ID: To: Dave Horsfall Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000003f0846057999f862" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Unix APIs: elegant or not? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --0000000000003f0846057999f862 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 7:48 AM Dave Horsfall wrote: > I did see a proposal a while back (can't remember where/when) to use > something like open("/dev/net/host/port", ...) to establish a network > connection (or a server with appropriate flags), in much the same way that > device files are created dynamically. > Dave - that's how the original UNIX ChaosNet code worked and the original BBN TCP (before sockets). Apollo used the same scheme with Aegis/Domain (probably because Larry Allen implemented both UNIX Chaos and Aegis IIRC). P9 took a different path still (pun intended). Clem --0000000000003f0846057999f862 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 7:48 AM Dave Horsfall <dave@horsfall.org> wrote:
I did see a proposal a while back (can't remember where/w= hen) to use
something like open("/dev/net/host/port", ...) to establish a net= work
connection (or a server with appropriate flags), in much the same way that =
device files are created dynamically.

Dav= e - that's how the original UNIX ChaosNet code worked and the original = BBN TCP (before sockets).=C2=A0 Apollo used the same scheme with Aegis/Doma= in (probably because Larry Allen implemented both UNIX Chaos and Aegis IIRC= ).

P9 took a different path still (pun intended).

Clem
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