From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 09069dbf for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 20:33:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A40ACA1F27; Fri, 31 Aug 2018 06:33:56 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B389FA1A25; Fri, 31 Aug 2018 06:33:47 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b=QzV+xesb; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id B7862A1A25; Fri, 31 Aug 2018 06:33:45 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-io0-f175.google.com (mail-io0-f175.google.com [209.85.223.175]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 26072A1A1A for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2018 06:33:45 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-io0-f175.google.com with SMTP id l14-v6so8680989iob.7 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 13:33:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=bCFlh/NssmQJqekOH4i+O0XT5t2EHyZABUqY9wKuu0c=; b=QzV+xesbf5fgCyTXHSzh4FHsGvlX2ARbJPsDuNNRqPlq0x5kPCJs9QgD3P0J9D7JC/ xZfV5MacJ2jCt8pdvbUO2vk8TpUA2BUuu89MOpJAeKAQIc7Ttma+czQH+sIOIij6HhW0 BWwOpSLL4u1QOjdFZ7sXemqcDux6jwMaZV8xA= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=bCFlh/NssmQJqekOH4i+O0XT5t2EHyZABUqY9wKuu0c=; b=ddWb6evwnvdl3ie6Vt2ZRDxVlx6ZDUr5OXEfAPynKpG9z16+DEKIGTPAr5GK4PSGEJ QK52VySDxCpP431S5yFGurDbOaSkv5+QCFMwCKwlj2OZgx/KNfsbLx0zZUYbreO7y613 yCUohMXOjl7V9uMcXorHStZeweca2Tq+BDSjvPmvbbDV9ndphP2mGq8t6fbXbrxO0YSn AC/3l21QxNEXq3p5dCqT1N0YmgiwFxwjHYO7FsPBKHPYn7eTPxcZmmXxTXvbKgdeR2iJ xxDJTEwS0lTVK6gzoeUOjDMFG86egkvRVpEjgJl5v8pb3uxVn9HX6tnmWN++s9NAGB3X UkwA== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51ChXnehgWKYY3tqmZ83QyRYoTqNuB5djlgjy1cfP/sSerD93htz 82bz8maygTEL+xA+bmVCdiwOqgW4YIISdepapKZH1Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdahlJ2/C/xYKxATbobxPrvSEHN1x/SmXBuDBCWcw4b4x8kogOrymWpCenbf16MkD3opAh0PE8sl97Gao+xsdZU= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:9651:: with SMTP id y78-v6mr10550214iod.283.1535661224363; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 13:33:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20180830194106.9E57818C0A2@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> <20180830202200.GC664@mcvoy.com> In-Reply-To: <20180830202200.GC664@mcvoy.com> From: Clem Cole Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 16:33:06 -0400 Message-ID: To: Larry McVoy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c655be0574acfd89" Subject: Re: [TUHS] SunOS code? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list , Noel Chiappa Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000c655be0574acfd89 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 4:22 PM Larry McVoy wrote: > > > So I've been down this path, it was STREAMS and RFS, and maybe a couple > of drivers. I pulled all that crud out, put back the BSD tty code, > and I had a SunOS we could have given away. It was back when I was > writing this: > > http://mcvoy.com/lm/bitmover/lm/papers/freeos.pdf > > and I needed to be able to show that what I was asking for was possible. > Good to know you think it was possible. I know in the case of Ultrix and HP-UX lots of external folks licenses small things like Mentat, MIPS etc. For instance, one of the Ultrix and Alpha bug-a-boos was the MIPS compiler, which leaked into the IP stream along the way. As far as I remember from my Locus days when we had just about everybody's sources from IBM to Sun, the problem was the license was not just the OEM and AT&T, there was always the sub-licenses from some deal or another that the OEM had cut at some point. Clem =E1=90=A7 --000000000000c655be0574acfd89 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 4:22 PM Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com> wrote:


So I've been down this path, it was STREAMS and RFS, and maybe a couple=
of drivers.=C2=A0 I pulled all that crud out, put back the BSD tty code, and I had a SunOS we could have given away.=C2=A0 It was back when I was writing this:

http://mcvoy.com/lm/bitmover/lm/papers/freeos.pdf

and I needed to be able to show that what I was asking for was possible.

Good to know you think it was possible.=C2= =A0 =C2=A0I know in the case of Ultrix and HP-UX lots of external folks lic= enses small things like Mentat, MIPS etc.=C2=A0 =C2=A0For instance, one of = the Ultrix and Alpha bug-a-boos was the MIPS compiler, which leaked into th= e IP stream along the way.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 As far as I remember from my Locus = days when we had just about everybody's sources from IBM to Sun, the pr= oblem was the license was not just the OEM and AT&T, there was always t= he sub-licenses from some deal or another that the OEM had cut at some poin= t.

Clem
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