From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 41d29579 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 20:14:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 0656C9B9CA; Wed, 18 Sep 2019 06:14:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35F3B9480D; Wed, 18 Sep 2019 06:14:02 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="jrD84Dbp"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id BC6CB9480D; Wed, 18 Sep 2019 06:13:59 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-wr1-f46.google.com (mail-wr1-f46.google.com [209.85.221.46]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D083B94797 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2019 06:13:58 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-wr1-f46.google.com with SMTP id l11so4513586wrx.5 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 13:13:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=tBBoCLIuJUCAJ8++hozvYv4ENCHUAyffZ7AJaY89TSc=; b=jrD84DbpjD+TatbQZCPwMwzPP7T72fmq8MqrecfByPO+5VhIpSvmR6xD681hyTGAQC i17VEHA2JM1LL7hGkM0vDmp0NUsPIm2wMbKLLydOlGFr32IPgXOO3+LYmpNI9lDUUgiL esI66G711cxUc9IfRGWvu0Pg4hHRt8Hw2gSLE= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=tBBoCLIuJUCAJ8++hozvYv4ENCHUAyffZ7AJaY89TSc=; b=tyTQHRNBo+dL087SBE1QLwyfCZREWXp6JsHrpprVbkxhL//h8D+VJig66fB7t1O2sQ tXBZy98ilmDlclcsfvDdZTEYBsBg4VyJADtfglQdB5bH/0u1n7ULv8YzW+UrqFjG5suT gPKuadur/ImDjMzjtGyvMmNOIS6vAjKgZ+gV/QLvXTDAN3HuaVprKZCef/EYK2+cH8Hh WIONWOhexXDUSAQgS47RAbJlth6iKidnjLoe5he7vuH9J/O8B3EraWqJSxExE9tEVyTx P4HR5bAZvadwee4uDMcLPHwnUBsSkNEa3KFo6sRh4PMN5ydFx55BpEe7BF3WhHQFup5A bZmA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVBv/wt12FQ6CY5iFME6+MX2pG6Yu0eU+Ey9Fd/durgmzMR7Ts9 9Ela8/wEzvDyGI/JpWoOI7larkHZa7O7c/BNZmcnOA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzWhbwkjvhKkwutIp6gFhmSkEH1n8w/wk2BX2ND1RsxCM4P766YgKJMUByf/QARdhe7u1ImkChpfEAeB2A/f2E= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6000:10c2:: with SMTP id b2mr296425wrx.45.1568751237149; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 13:13:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2019 16:13:30 -0400 Message-ID: To: Warner Losh Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000003b55c80592c55cd8" Subject: Re: [TUHS] My EuroBSDcon talk (preview for commentary) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --0000000000003b55c80592c55cd8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 3:18 PM Warner Losh wrote: > > When I worked at The Wollongong Group they were quite specific that they > had their license from V6 days, that it was a one-off that has unusually > favorable terms, and that it was the first licensee. But that may be the > first license to redistribute, rather than the first commercial user to b= e > licensed... > Possible - as I said ISC might have something also. But V7 was the first generally available redistrbution license. It might have had a few tunable things, but generally it was what everyone had. The per CPU terms was set thinking a computer cost $150K-500K, not $1-2K. > > > I'll see if I can work that in.. Is that the famous '50 patches' or is > that something else? > Yes - the patch tape or 50 changes. > =E1=90=A7 --0000000000003b55c80592c55cd8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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When I worked at T= he Wollongong Group they were quite specific that they had their license fr= om V6 days, that it was a one-off that has unusually favorable terms, and t= hat it was the first licensee. But that may be the first license to redistr= ibute, rather than the first commercial user to be licensed...
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