From: Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com>
To: Will Senn <will.senn@gmail.com>
Cc: TUHS main list <tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Will pdp 11/04 run unix?
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 10:01:24 -0400 [thread overview]
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s/note the data/note the date/ <-- dyslexic typing -- sigh.
On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 9:53 AM Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:
> PDP 11/04, like 11/03,11/05, 11/15, 11/20 lacks an MMU. So the
> traditional releases from Research, USG, UCB will not boot.
> That said, V1 which ran without it might work with some tweeking as they
> did not yet have one. And if you could find a KS-11 MMU that Ken and
> Dennis had for the 11/20 (which was designed by DEC CSS), theoretically
> next versions could be made to run. The problem is that while many of us
> have looked a: we can not find a KS-11 in real life (CSS did make that
> many), b: we can't even find documentation about it (Ken's surviving code
> is the best doc we have).
>
> FYI: go to bitsavers and download a copy of the PDP-11 Processor
> Handbook, but note the data. You probably will want (at least) both
> an early and a later one, as the later ones often dropped details about
> some of the models that were not being manufactured. For instance, I have
> a couple of different ones, and the '78 version really one talks about
> 04/34/45/55/60 - the previous processors like 03/15/40 are not included.
> So you need an early 70's version to include them, and later versions for
> the 44/90 etc.
>
> BTW: Page 4 of same, have a graphic showing the HW requirements for the
> DEC OS's. On the X-axis is the OS, the Y axis the model. RT-11, MUMPS-11,
> RSX-11M, RS-11S are the only OS's that were supported for the 04.
>
> Here is a hint, if the processor could not support RSTS, it is unlikely it
> could support UNIX.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 9:17 AM Will Senn <will.senn@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The question is can I run Unix on a PDP 11/04? I've dug around and it's
>> unclear to me, so I'm asking y'all.
>>
>> Will
>>
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Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-07-30 13:16 Will Senn
2020-07-30 13:53 ` Clem Cole
2020-07-30 14:01 ` Clem Cole [this message]
2020-07-30 13:47 Noel Chiappa
2020-07-30 14:08 ` Ronald Natalie
2020-07-30 16:13 ` Warner Losh
2020-07-30 18:00 ` Heinz Lycklama
2020-07-30 18:55 ` Angelo Papenhoff
2020-07-30 17:20 Noel Chiappa
2020-07-30 21:37 Noel Chiappa
2020-07-31 7:10 ` Angelo Papenhoff
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