From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 13538 invoked from network); 19 May 2023 20:15:44 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 19 May 2023 20:15:44 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0466E40B88; Sat, 20 May 2023 06:15:40 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ua1-x933.google.com (mail-ua1-x933.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::933]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2ACE6402D9 for ; Sat, 20 May 2023 06:15:32 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ua1-x933.google.com with SMTP id a1e0cc1a2514c-783e5f8717aso1223539241.2 for ; Fri, 19 May 2023 13:15:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; t=1684527331; x=1687119331; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=0qFfMnFF4+GsCMijG8LIvyu9g2oYy1NGjPgyGxrul9o=; b=QEviI5OPejXEzgyGGtddEE/x6xJ8Qbe9/Yc1tPlB5yTtt01VoNGA21hHpGlDpkcQnb 09s0VTg1RvKhhQ73Ux3gLmffM6PUid5y78nJhWLJnOppPpI9dlzOP5kXOHyVGOEP04/N vlCM1RYeYNdZzv3iIoqW++kpmV1UlZx/Lcjks= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1684527331; x=1687119331; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=0qFfMnFF4+GsCMijG8LIvyu9g2oYy1NGjPgyGxrul9o=; b=f27R4ZjqcGtLxDovedupn59JjNXepKChkuqCtw943Q2GSVhlwxqIQhxQcgr35HtyaT I5dJER3M2E/pYEiN3wkxy2vfsSo7j5C0BoTHcHuCS0yamDymfipbHrytyAVLPDxMg2E/ 8cvykf4/87HAI/o6xX2GRWiLSTN4eLSA8GnNzd6RBH6Y/3uwmzVy8WmU6ASEBW1onxAe 5ubD7LWGfB3BBMrAL2NabVVvgrhx3wOQbXXZ3LetTGAgg3waVZWKNUyBOcKAnj0wD9Ab H4tz1sq5EMB+C8mQti1xqmdGNddssdguRuQaV/S0Q1/9kQVjzl05udF0oiC9TvDYaHjA 9NnQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AC+VfDw5VplLyzgXMFSUcpsffh2h6dZLPvGCkLo3SoFHWDK6hspnuyAc 3iUM2JxjXfcCxR7mnL/xoDpktqljjDFKnBg4c+6G8g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACHHUZ7jlrdnhO2kQ4c4xFfA45c9et5MQGbVVWQhlTp93bLYLWWuAXM0y5GaxOLg6O7buYWC91YE3sQgWFlQW2vTWLk= X-Received: by 2002:a67:f98d:0:b0:434:5d46:f297 with SMTP id b13-20020a67f98d000000b004345d46f297mr158517vsq.31.1684527330798; Fri, 19 May 2023 13:15:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Fri, 19 May 2023 16:15:04 -0400 Message-ID: To: KenUnix Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000002ac49105fc1195ff" Message-ID-Hash: MMFYMUYQEVMUHJKMSFYGK7M2GTXT4DEL X-Message-ID-Hash: MMFYMUYQEVMUHJKMSFYGK7M2GTXT4DEL X-MailFrom: clemc@ccc.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: UNIX TUHS Group X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Documentation for Sys-V basic interpreter List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --0000000000002ac49105fc1195ff Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sure the sources and a man page or two exists. Ken Thompson wrote bas(1) and bs(1) was Dick Haight - which IIRC correctly, was ~78/79. Haight's program which would go out as part of System V --- was first distributed outside of the labs in System III. I would have expected man pages in either source distribution. I don't have those online to check and I don't tend to bother with System V as its historically less interesting. That said, one thing I do remember is that the primary version of bs from the PWB family (certainly the one we had at UCB) was a little different from the version I saw in a couple of the BTL sites later. My >>memory<< here (which could be flawed) was the CB Unix folks added a few features -- like a set of plotting function that Whippany picked up etc. I only remember this because we were working with a number of different places (from different AT&T labs to IBM, Intel, NS, HP, Tek, etc.) when we developed the UCB CAD tools. I remember and an incident where one of the Bell folks we had at UCB had brought some thing with him that relied on the strange bs dialec -- i.e. did not run on the UCB CAD systems - which had the version of PWB. It was close, but made calls to some extra stuff (plot and the like IIRC). My suggestion, as always start in the TUHS archives and look there -- that will be the most complete of what was released. That said, Disk4 of Kirk's set will have all the stuff we had in /usr/local (like cpio etc..) on the UCB systems. FWIW: I'm fairly sure the sources and the man pages will be with Kirk's trove. But I don't believe BSD ever released it, as it was not part of V7, so you will not find it in a formal BSD distribution tape. =E1=90=A7 On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 11:07=E2=80=AFAM KenUnix w= rote: > Hi. > > Was any documentation ever done for the basic interpreter > that was on System-V? > > Things like allowed keywords or special keywords. > > Thanks > Ken > > > -- > WWL =F0=9F=93=9A Okey Dokey OK Boss > > > --0000000000002ac49105fc1195ff Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sure the sources and a man page or two exists.=C2=A0 Ke= n Thompson wrote bas(1) and bs(1) was=C2=A0Dick Haight - which IIRC correctl= y, was ~78/79.=C2=A0 Haight's program which would go out as part of Sys= tem V ---=C2=A0 was first distributed outside of the labs in System III. I = would have expected man pages in either source distribution.=C2=A0 I don= 9;t have those online to check and I don't tend to bother with System V= as its=C2=A0historically less interesting.

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That said, one thing I do remember is that the primary version of bs from= the PWB family (certainly the one we had at UCB) was a little different fr= om the version I saw in a couple of the BTL sites later.=C2=A0 My >>m= emory<< here (which could be flawed) was the CB Unix folks added a fe= w features -- like a set of plotting function=C2=A0that=C2=A0Whippany picke= d up etc.=C2=A0 I only remember this because we were working with a number = of different places (from different AT&T labs to IBM, Intel, NS, HP, Te= k, etc.) when we developed the UCB CAD tools.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I remember and=C2= =A0an incident where one of the Bell folks we had at UCB had brought some t= hing with him that relied on the strange bs dialec=C2=A0-- i.e. did not run= on the UCB CAD systems - which had the version of PWB. It was close, but m= ade calls to some extra stuff (plot and the like IIRC).

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My suggestion, as always start in the TUHS archives and look = there -- that will be the most complete of what was released. That said,=C2= =A0 Disk4 of Kirk's set will have all the stuff we had in /usr/local (l= ike cpio etc..) on the UCB systems.=C2=A0 FWIW: I'm fairly sure t= he=C2=A0sources and the man pages will be with Kirk's trove. But = I don't believe BSD ever released it, as it was not part of V7, so you = will not find it in a formal BSD distribution tape.

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On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 11:07=E2=80=AFAM = KenUnix <ken.unix.guy@gmail.co= m> wrote:
Hi.

Was any documentation e= ver done for the basic interpreter
that was on System-V?

Things like allowed keywords or special keywords.

Thanks
Ken


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WWL =F0=9F=93= =9A Okey Dokey OK Boss


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