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From: Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com>
To: Lars Brinkhoff <lars@nocrew.org>
Cc: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Early Linux and BSD
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 09:30:39 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC20D2MP2Y0ef7pm-kLRi4ien436rf_5f37KX76XH07BptsriA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7wk15l70u3.fsf@junk.nocrew.org>

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It's possible they added an internal register or two to help save the fault
State but I don't think so. We'd have to ask Les Crudele or Nick T. to be
sure.   As I understand it from my days of commuting with Les to Stellar
and his talking about the project on those trips, the only real difference
between the 68000 and 68010 was Nick's microcode which was in the mask.  I
think they may have stepped the mask in a few places for better yields but
I understand the impression that was not externally electrical different in
function.

[Les was the 68000's main logic designer and Nick wrote the microcode].

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 1:59 AM Lars Brinkhoff <lars@nocrew.org> wrote:

> Jon Steinhart wrote:
> > The 32032 made sense for the workstation division based on the data
> sheets.
> > But, it turned out to be extremely buggy, and unlike the 68K I don't
> recall
> > the ability to look at and patch the state of the microcode.
>
> Did you have the ability to look at and patch the state of 68000
> microcode?  How?
>
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Sent from a handheld expect more typos than usual

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-21 14:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-17 16:01 [TUHS] On the origins of Linux - "an academic question" Arrigo Triulzi
2020-01-17 16:53 ` Warner Losh
2020-01-17 17:08   ` Arrigo Triulzi
2020-01-17 17:25 ` Brantley Coile
2020-01-17 19:59 ` Arno Griffioen
2020-01-18  3:50   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-01-18  4:19     ` [TUHS] Early Linux and BSD (was: On the origins of Linux - "an academic question") Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2020-01-18 15:25       ` Larry McVoy
2020-01-18 16:19         ` reed
2020-01-19  2:49       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-01-19  3:12         ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2020-01-19  3:47           ` [TUHS] Early Linux and BSD Warren Toomey
2020-01-19  3:51             ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2020-01-19  3:58           ` [TUHS] Early Linux and BSD (was: On the origins of Linux - "an academic question") Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2020-01-19 13:25             ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-01-19 13:48               ` Clem Cole
2020-01-20  3:32               ` Greg A. Woods
2020-01-20  3:51                 ` George Michaelson
2020-01-20  3:59                   ` [TUHS] Early Linux and BSD Jon Forrest
2020-01-20 17:19                   ` [TUHS] Early Linux and BSD (was: On the origins of Linux - "an academic question") Clem Cole
2020-01-20 17:49                     ` Warner Losh
2020-01-20 19:00                       ` Clem Cole
2020-01-20 18:04                     ` Larry McVoy
2020-01-20 18:09                       ` David Barto
2020-01-20 18:34                         ` [TUHS] Early Linux and BSD Arthur Krewat
2020-01-20 19:18                       ` [TUHS] Early Linux and BSD (was: On the origins of Linux - "an academic question") Clem Cole
2020-01-20 19:46                         ` Jon Steinhart
2020-01-20 20:15                           ` Clem Cole
2020-01-21  6:58                           ` [TUHS] Early Linux and BSD Lars Brinkhoff
2020-01-21 14:30                             ` Clem Cole [this message]
2020-01-21 17:17                             ` Jon Steinhart
2020-01-21 17:22                               ` Warner Losh
2020-01-21 17:25                                 ` Jon Steinhart
2020-01-21 18:43                               ` Clem Cole
2020-01-21 18:44                                 ` Clem Cole
2020-01-21 19:14                                   ` Warner Losh
2020-01-21 20:27                                     ` Clem Cole
2020-01-22  0:14                       ` [TUHS] Early Linux and BSD (was: On the origins of Linux - "an academic question") Greg A. Woods
2020-01-21  0:44                     ` Bakul Shah
2020-01-20 19:09                 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-01-20 19:51                   ` Clem Cole
2020-01-20 23:04                   ` Greg A. Woods
2020-01-21  0:13                     ` Warner Losh
2020-01-21 23:45                       ` Greg A. Woods
2020-01-18 15:30     ` [TUHS] On the origins of Linux - "an academic question" Larry McVoy
2020-01-17 23:11 ` Andrew Warkentin
2020-01-17 23:20   ` Rob Pike
2020-01-17 23:38     ` Brantley Coile
2020-01-18  0:23 ` Wesley Parish

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