From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 15448 invoked from network); 1 Sep 2021 13:45:38 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 1 Sep 2021 13:45:38 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id BFE389D52F; Wed, 1 Sep 2021 23:45:35 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE0A9BA1D; Wed, 1 Sep 2021 23:45:11 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="bhwijPKS"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C42069BA1D; Wed, 1 Sep 2021 23:45:08 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qk1-f181.google.com (mail-qk1-f181.google.com [209.85.222.181]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B30BE9B9F9 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 2021 23:45:07 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qk1-f181.google.com with SMTP id y144so3012568qkb.6 for ; Wed, 01 Sep 2021 06:45:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Mx/r1WCmZyTawmUV8tZ048K8Uc79H0UGu3hMFMEQBeQ=; b=bhwijPKSdzU7sQBib7wKh2rZjpipmXopo7UUoKqskwnriJzsXRmj4waeI4iNcAQcB3 TyLWS2nFTgw8IBLs5H+YLsKC/mgd0qE4MRC+tYUp4Y1Y1FmWATx8Um8SgUP4+6Vdg61F y+wSFSjWq80IGPUFVRiCeFB+rhGTjp9SNjo6M= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Mx/r1WCmZyTawmUV8tZ048K8Uc79H0UGu3hMFMEQBeQ=; b=REgObu6TUtT8uJgrQQ3CqqqT58OUZ0LMlyCjAul687v8GSmP42RzV1TjeLCrwFSaem HwfJME+FPPkKS/Zb7rc0LN9sVNiRF8UjMLw3lGaRwRvzwaz3B6z3/cQ5J3AwB3vA++w2 am6Dk5WjRxv8gbRBuVttd26BNWr7F/kEytwgBQHrsAxfMXmKn5Wz2WN7H7PXzdaz0KdL a/4g+LsVwglNUeOzVKQYLNza9tGZzv9bbpRgjYC6/SJZAiZsdY9F4WsGLy10S39Dknv9 Zb4tOkoklNTKNLUz3fX9uLIyLXa/14YkTvIvpm3/GTNQ562xvzgdE3VRdjiq3Lhcclkt ZVdQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530/ZvuN5sfDdRbjZvGRQeFI2ucZ5SeBEiS8uEokk6N91CcT503p Lw1xlX5hLwbKE/JFsavy18jW+yDwmxkwWh2r8/7KAg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxO4o7fJ5Unht2gxgluSIn/W6I5ec7nSdl6fPq+gdq+NgPEop2MPt1GwHbP/ck/vPNhBET0AIF3KrUSxiWdiiQ= X-Received: by 2002:a37:91c3:: with SMTP id t186mr8548132qkd.307.1630503906370; Wed, 01 Sep 2021 06:45:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2021 09:44:40 -0400 Message-ID: To: Dan Cross Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000024f92205caef4667" Subject: Re: [TUHS] A language question X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --00000000000024f92205caef4667 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 9:29 AM Dan Cross wrote: > As an aside, I'd always been under the impression that the "AB" in "ABEND= " > comes from, "abnormal"? > That was what taught when I was hacking on TSS/360 (before I even saw UNIX)= . The term was used in the IBM batch system to say your job died or stopped with an abnormal ending (*i.e.* The job returned exit(NONZEROVALUE)= to the OS in UNIX terms [or the OS killed it for some reason and forced it to exit in that manner]. As for Richard's question about abort(), no idea. I had heard the term used to kill off an errant process/job/task used in other systems before I ever came to Unix. You'd probably need some like Doug M or Knuth that goes back far enought to help you with history. =E1=90=A7 --00000000000024f92205caef4667 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On W= ed, Sep 1, 2021 at 9:29 AM Dan Cross <crossd@gmail.com> wrote:
As an aside, I'd always been under the impression that the &quo= t;AB" in "ABEND" comes from, "abnormal"?
That was what taught when= I was hacking on TSS/360 (before I even saw UNIX).=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0The term was used i= n the IBM batch system to say your job died or stopped with an abnormal end= ing (i.e.=C2=A0The job returned=C2=A0exit= (NONZEROVALUE)=C2=A0to the OS in UNIX = terms [or the OS killed it for some reason and forced it to exit in that ma= nner].

As for Richard's question about abort(), no idea.=C2= =A0 I had heard the term used to kill off an errant process/job/task used i= n other systems before I ever came to Unix.=C2=A0 =C2=A0You'd probably = need some like Doug M or Knuth that goes back far enought=C2=A0to help= you with history.
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