From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 20704 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2022 18:28:37 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 9 Aug 2022 18:28:37 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FC2F40139; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 04:28:15 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vs1-f51.google.com (mail-vs1-f51.google.com [209.85.217.51]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A42F840135 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 04:28:10 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vs1-f51.google.com with SMTP id d126so8488352vsd.13 for ; Tue, 09 Aug 2022 11:28:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=KFfmLCq73YVOkZI+DqIBaA1bRD/u9BT/wc0kicJ/jG4=; b=eMKAHG5T/R8WN9EMjMNBLwZn46R6y2QtGhuoLdexZGPFBfQe73y6Swr44NsOBDOvlM ZVTId+ATcEtt6Lig+V4LXL6TSgSCH21xTXPj/UUGnpXeCxLam64xUvuAweCoThYMljfi nHmR6mWJBmNijDvw3x1nksJImAqMKCnzg6X5A= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=KFfmLCq73YVOkZI+DqIBaA1bRD/u9BT/wc0kicJ/jG4=; b=JnoRgwheVyuWpGBrYJtH8mDYC+mCUuLGq+dLiyJbdQCM+f5NsC6Fo75NijF2RpNIho Cs15tS16m4wHSExZgq0bqLuBlSJT+ulQxWnjb246f9KUj+byVwbA+SAHPoov53AxfnUW j3D9YKHB0RnbmM4lImzhGQ7u92veLNzlWe5PkVtyB8zACcnPz3x0hYuykwlBeU+FOBhw yMOwZTMwj8eE0hp1XLDywd0pjt7zgJA511nJPhOFFlII5mKCWqX6WQNY1zA841rzBrUo BhtBuRlATfUErfp1AVIzyfFOyWM0pvLN9zWtdWQ/8/Er5ETp4UrF1FfM9aoM1qVEKiYk TyTg== X-Gm-Message-State: ACgBeo1p/63AdYqvRxIo9l9JYvKbNOWOsx1dVUvMls6I/E5GZwVQez/7 xFV0MmEcEqxnZjs1+xVqYhs4vybFETkwCPeOK6uRAzucTSG87g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA6agR7qOq0M8dEm/UhJ3Fagbal40ohwYpsn4HfgGIKpwhi527eBp5QEH7ybE9Kkgctl25JtK2GqeWF7fydQPWtA4+I= X-Received: by 2002:a67:a449:0:b0:357:3407:9f60 with SMTP id p9-20020a67a449000000b0035734079f60mr10537150vsh.17.1660069629633; Tue, 09 Aug 2022 11:27:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1oF87S-4zW-00@marmaro.de> <8NgHeeJiYEBE0zhtd9RdKIeYWcAwtxsnAj7YhVIvLpz-yt0__LeFvVzNNGgSNTeDGnVQy-qxkoHWvmRi84ybYyNAiMRDJuVoAaEG96UAu4s=@protonmail.com> <20220724190253.GA23421@tau1.ceti.pl> <20220728003014.GB6195@tau1.ceti.pl> <202207280103.26S13ZL5059300@ultimate.com> <1E44D7CE-CC4D-4F86-97CC-208E3972A785@msweng.com> <20220729050748.GB12246@tau1.ceti.pl> <1815F4B8-D6B4-4C71-AC05-27D88C1E580D@humeweb.com> In-Reply-To: <1815F4B8-D6B4-4C71-AC05-27D88C1E580D@humeweb.com> From: Clem Cole Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2022 14:26:43 -0400 Message-ID: To: Andrew Hume Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000093c19305e5d31490" Message-ID-Hash: SHMM5355SH3FUJYRKXOV272Z67OVP2FV X-Message-ID-Hash: SHMM5355SH3FUJYRKXOV272Z67OVP2FV X-MailFrom: clemc@ccc.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: SNOBOL and RATSNO List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --00000000000093c19305e5d31490 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 11:15 AM Andrew Hume wrote: > rob, clem: > > has there been a shift in ability? or is this more likely a sampling bias > (because there were so many fewer programmers then)? > Certainly part of it. But I think was more likely the type of person than the number. In those days because the tools and use of them required extreme precision, only the precise found their way. What's the Pixar Incredible's line: *If everyone is super, no one will be.* =E1=90=A7 =E1=90=A7 --00000000000093c19305e5d31490 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 11:15= AM Andrew Hume <andrew@humeweb.com> wrote:
rob, clem:

has there been a shift in ability? or is this more = likely a sampling bias
(because there were so many fewer programm= ers then)?
Certainly=C2=A0part of it.=C2= =A0 But I think was more likely the type of person=C2=A0= than the number.=C2=A0 =C2=A0In those days because the tools and use of= them required extreme precision, only the precise found their way.=C2=A0= =C2=A0

What's the Pixar = Incredible's line:=C2=A0 =C2=A0If everyone is super, no one will be.=
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