From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [IPv6:2600:3c01:e000:146::1]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6E1F21397 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2024 18:25:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A397E43CB5; Mon, 2 Dec 2024 03:24:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vk1-xa2b.google.com (mail-vk1-xa2b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::a2b]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D1FE343CB4 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2024 03:24:53 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vk1-xa2b.google.com with SMTP id 71dfb90a1353d-51532deb867so720958e0c.0 for ; Sun, 01 Dec 2024 09:24:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; t=1733073893; x=1733678693; darn=tuhs.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=QGKbBfBkUeEKxS8Fzw4oOe0G7zRBlQ7jzu3M1112NSY=; b=q1I226rgu4Tij8JmRhPcc4Hy59gBxhWl+Jl1ntf9qCrRiYPR/nW80rr6SssKRz/UdS qONl81can6mBvGxqxrX8k8Ji7feBzWJ422+J+3qjt7zJ6V+3pJ7nX9UFL9I9UntSeBq8 ZDWJCYHnnXyb814H4UyzX5YVampPZKV7M3HB0= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1733073893; x=1733678693; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=QGKbBfBkUeEKxS8Fzw4oOe0G7zRBlQ7jzu3M1112NSY=; b=sTXTIeah4HNfEKWdd2+9Wbvj75rzRKovckpID0bJyRibkkXr/bG+kHyHeAGA80JxVc FuyiD8XJd7sQcfmKs1VDx5xSzh+PpoATWKEzEv5qUTiLS3fLZXoCA3h7wZUGTnCjAKe3 ITecltmmEtJyLoJFj33NK+sp//ySs/g27p0i9WZhSLohR2ygfeVUhGmxxwj8Al7a8KkW 3YL/AYsqtR3RNTqy0OpL4FfwF16mnJOY7LXL4yXYnPC8rCggYz2ASRv8PQHBNmdxTZYD FswzgaznLNMxiVQkGJ1iTPK2k//txJ6j7JJ3K8hISbWknk7+uLlXrFqgKrVPv6gc6VYR WkGw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwwAQzwzMK3gwS5fTNXwYjGWIrHZEkd96H3R5YP8Ye/Wnnr4E42 SOYX+JlLNQnLDyU5XNXoQf3UIDOcyk2RBoxiQqHdYjZj8GNXQv9Fyr7N25hlrwygby7MMH4GmSx YccPJ5110y4BoFULeTIQ0VuItPdouY3HjRYg2 X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncvGn0sNTKPYFq4tUMtPmiumqK4Twy+XxEKtpOnHsv3cof/nYMMVFglKGPos3HD itPzFXvZxe+KncDg8ic3z+CcM8+3S X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHgc3fw4Y2zrY0E6P4LjbtiV1LDEsboTqPMXdDLsA7uaYIUBPjZxo6otm6iUD6A+zVa+lXUtVrbq+m07o/aHv4= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6122:251b:b0:50d:4b8d:6745 with SMTP id 71dfb90a1353d-5155681746emr21261085e0c.0.1733073892753; Sun, 01 Dec 2024 09:24:52 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20241201042131.E7DD318C075@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2024 12:24:16 -0500 Message-ID: To: Ron Natalie Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000bf6151062838b5d2" Message-ID-Hash: GJMFIWR24P2IXAZ7CJQ46X25ITYCUHSA X-Message-ID-Hash: GJMFIWR24P2IXAZ7CJQ46X25ITYCUHSA X-MailFrom: clemc@ccc.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Typesetter C Compiler and Troff (Re: Re: v6 Unix Documents) List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000bf6151062838b5d2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Exactly -- remember Dennis and Brian wrote K&R in 1978 on V6, not PWB and not V7 (or anything from Summit like TS). When Brian's typesetter independent troff was released, that updated language was needed. That was what we referred to as "typesetter C". Brian and Dennis would have put together that kit. My >>guess<< is that Mashey et al. and the Summit folks forked Dennis compiler somewhere before this time -- so what got packaged with the typesetter kit vs what got packed with Mashey and the team's kit are close but >>slightly<< different. =E1=90=A7 On Sun, Dec 1, 2024 at 10:49=E2=80=AFAM Ron Natalie wr= ote: > Agreed, the typesetter C ran on a virgin V6 system. That was the whole > point. It came out before most of us got real V7s. > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From "Noel Chiappa" > To tuhs@tuhs.org > Cc jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu > Date 11/30/2024 11:21:31=E2=80=AFPM > Subject [TUHS] Re: Typesetter C Compiler and Troff (Re: Re: v6 Unix > Documents) > > > > From: > > > > > I was able to rebuild both the UNSW and the native PWB compiler o= n > PWB > > > 1.0, but not to backport either to vanilla v6. > > > >Any idea what the problem was? I'm curious, because we ran a version of > the > >Typesetter compiler on the MIT systems, which ran an enhanced V6. > > > > Noel > > > --000000000000bf6151062838b5d2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Exactly -- remember Dennis and Brian wrote K&R in 1= 978 on V6, not PWB and not V7 (or anything from Summit like TS).=C2=A0 When= Brian's typesetter independent troff was released, that updated langua= ge was needed.=C2=A0 =C2=A0That was what we referred to as "typesetter= C".=C2=A0 Brian and Dennis would have put together that kit.=C2=A0 = =C2=A0My >>guess<< is that Mashey et al. and the Summit folks f= orked Dennis compiler somewhere before this time -- so what got packaged wi= th the typesetter kit vs what got packed with Mashey and the team's kit= are close but >>slightly<< different.
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On Sun, Dec 1, 2024 at 10:49=E2=80=AFAM Ron= Natalie <ron@ronnatalie.com&g= t; wrote:
Agreed= , the typesetter C ran on a virgin V6 system.=C2=A0 =C2=A0That was the whol= e
point.=C2=A0 =C2=A0It came out before most of us got real V7s.



------ Original Message ------
>From "Noel Chiappa" <jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
To tuhs@tuhs.org
Cc jnc@mercury= .lcs.mit.edu
Date 11/30/2024 11:21:31=E2=80=AFPM
Subject [TUHS] Re: Typesetter C Compiler and Troff (Re: Re: v6 Unix
Documents)

>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> From:
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> I was able to rebuild both the UNSW and the na= tive PWB compiler on PWB
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> 1.0, but not to backport either to vanilla v6.=
>
>Any idea what the problem was? I'm curious, because we ran a versio= n of the
>Typesetter compiler on the MIT systems, which ran an enhanced V6.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Noel
>
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