Ron. Where did the back ncp come from?as I said I never saw it and we tried to find one. Same for an IP implementation. That's why we wrote one. We were 3coms first customer and I somewhere have the mailing evenlope marked the 32 of December because they had a VC payment dependent on delivering before end of year. As for 11s. Yes that is true. A lot of them front ended large systems as Bob pointed out but many were self supporting as you note. On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 2:41 PM Ron Natalie wrote: > There were definitely as many PDP-11's (most running UNIX) as there were > DEC 10s in the glory days of the Arpanet. VAXes only rolled out toward > the end of the NCP era. > > However, the last NCP host table shows this statistic for DEC machines on > the NCP Arpanet > > VAX (UNIX): 58 > VAX (VMS): 19 > > PDP11 (UNIX): 59 > PDP11 (RSX): 6 > PDP11 (MOS): 11 > PDP11 (MINITS); 10 > > PDP10 (TOPS-20): 40 > PDP10 (TOPS-10): 7 > PDP10 (TENEX): 22 > PDP10 (ITS): 4 > PDP10 (WAITS): 3 > > I had all but forgotten about Local Host / Distant Host / Very Distant > Host 1822 protocols. I remember that BRL had a PDP-11/40 running ANTS > (ArpaNet Terminal Server out of University of Illinois). It got replaced > by an 11/34 running UNIX when the Arpanet went to long leaders New Years > 1981. > -- Sent from a handheld expect more typos than usual