From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id cc2f6401 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2020 14:50:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 74EF69C2A1; Sat, 25 Jan 2020 00:50:55 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6144E9C105; Sat, 25 Jan 2020 00:50:25 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="q3fOnVHE"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C0E2A9C105; Sat, 25 Jan 2020 00:50:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qk1-f180.google.com (mail-qk1-f180.google.com [209.85.222.180]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 299439C101 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2020 00:50:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qk1-f180.google.com with SMTP id x1so2209260qkl.12 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2020 06:50:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=TgNLs0kXDZ/1de3J6qUpfKO/uedM4Dx5DqCT6nCWBVU=; b=q3fOnVHEHe2E6q8VUnQbBk6bmCsBAalHluPq8FdvTW8+x4i0AWN4zXN3HLjhmsoSkG clkg7yYmw7YWs8I86U1CiJvt43Hbd0UALfHq43WDwFz6pKNY12z0HaUi8Y8XZcQpswzn +JX8AMgSibJXjXlKn8UpjNdpvMq4kuA761kGA= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=TgNLs0kXDZ/1de3J6qUpfKO/uedM4Dx5DqCT6nCWBVU=; b=D18DmM9FOQ/Xa7W/24dBG7GA1nfiCf4goe+AJ6Adr1y514I7jwRxXXkau9WEEIdfIG DlFfBlfyLL4lNyKbwxBqQ8uzQM6INT+LHkfoSL8cgqYOmsoDkPDTh/x9LchZwFJglWM8 ezflOgwU7HHOf62dbsaKhG/0gGfHq6IFOIbjQeKobi1Ggdl8rBjNZhm+UD5o6SSX81XJ TKKDFMr/Ianml1ZJCwKX19/VU53EfYFPx4HeyLDyYuKfCI7BTz1Sx3fRDgQ8FpkRUkep KACNQ8rc6d/xwDbrKlaCYwlol3haIkR7C8Wnpixob0PTi+2HL7HWUerAIBmIJ6tscu+x 23AA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXQ9tx2ssFocqmn/kEThfySJ3FztsnLxY4+UFlrPb0/O7nZLG/A 96t/jTdu8TqgOhknVEu2lTS/YWYRdYyVdtsMCTZp9Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyEp3YMDjaO0hkOba/yoV9aJJvOtL9l1y5ZL6Tedvk5C3SzoF31OioEPTwqq4rFPdCy4zwlfRUh8xazDut7+B0= X-Received: by 2002:a37:48f:: with SMTP id 137mr2901876qke.25.1579877420073; Fri, 24 Jan 2020 06:50:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202001222049.00MKnOOm082086@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> <87h80m6u9q.fsf@vuxu.org> In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 09:49:54 -0500 Message-ID: To: Warner Losh Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000699536059ce3e033" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Unix quix X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society , Leah Neukirchen , Doug McIlroy Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000699536059ce3e033 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 9:45 PM Warner Losh wrote: > MERT absolutely predates PWB 1.2. MERT has papers starting in 1975 while > pwb 1.2 is 1978 or 1979. > I can not say, I have any knowledge so I would trust Rob's sources, but ... I also what I would have thought MERT predates PWB. Heinz, are you able to illuminate any of these details? > MERT was V4 while releases of PWB were V6 based. > I can verify and agree with the later of PWB 1.x being 6th edition, but the MERT tidbit is interesting/thought-provoking. I frankly would have expected the MERT folks to have started with something closer to 5th and then tracked any significant differences as possible. --000000000000699536059ce3e033 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 9:45= PM Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>= ; wrote:
MERT absolutely predates PWB 1.2. MERT has papers starting = in 1975 while pwb 1.2=C2=A0 is 1978 or 1979.
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I can not say, I have any knowledge so I would trust Rob's sources, = but ... I also what I would have thought MERT predates PWB.=C2=A0 Heinz, ar= e you able to illuminate any of these details?=C2=A0

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MERT was V4 while releases of PWB were V6 based.=C2=A0
I can verify and agree with the later=C2=A0of= =C2=A0PWB 1.x being 6th edition, but the MERT tidbit is interesting/thought= -provoking. I frankly would have expected=C2=A0the MERT folks to have start= ed with something closer to 5th and then tracked any significant difference= s as possible. =C2=A0
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