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From: Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com>
To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog@lemis.com>
Cc: Alan Coopersmith <alan.coopersmith@oracle.com>,
	Marc Rochkind <mrochkind@gmail.com>,
	tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Origin of the name POSIX (was: ANSI (C) vs IEEE (POSIX) Standards Body Selection)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 23:02:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC20D2MiM1qDdXJOK1HoCim3riRaAF2p2sf0eKhwRP76yQiw9Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC20D2M+75ohjTPcTBmBkejeaWjQQjWCkf=4ZYrP4Bk0MCamKA@mail.gmail.com>

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FWIW: it is possible rms sent in comments and offered thoughts that we had
to handle.  He may consider that as partition.  He might have even been at
later .2 meetings  after I stopped coming.  But he was not at any .1
meetings and the name was created during that time by Jim Isaak IIRC.

FWIW Keith Bostics was at some of the .2 meetings Keith might haven there
when we got .1 to the  stage and when started the .2 work. I was part of
all off .1 and an early draft of .2.  Keith and I wrote the proposal that
became pax after I demonstrated tpio my hack to splice a cpio front end to
tar (I never wrote car).  A few meetings later we got the first draft of .2
out and was pretty much done at that point.

So if rms joined then it’s possible but the standard was in the oven before
he might have done anything.  And since we travelled to different sites for
the meetings and he did not have a firm to cover his travel costs, I would
very surprised he was at many later ones either.

Sent from a handheld expect more typos than usual


On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 10:46 PM Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:

> Garbage.  Rms was never at any early IEEE meeting that I was at - you
> could smell him a mile away as he rarely bathed.  I certainly knew him in
> those days.  I also have an early draft with all participants named and he
> is not one of them!!
>
> Sent from a handheld expect more typos than usual
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 9:11 PM Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, 26 June 2024 at 20:44:12 -0400, Clem Cole wrote:
>> > rms had nothing to do with the name posix.  I have no idea where that
>> > comment came from.
>>
>> At the very least, from rms himself:
>> https://stallman.org/articles/posix.html
>> There's a reference to this page in the Wikipedia page on POSIX.
>>
>> > The p1003 committee for Ieee was the portable operating system standard
>> and
>> > at the time adding ix was the norm.  POSIX became the term we all used
>> to
>> > refer to the work we doing.  Rms was not involved in any way
>>
>> rms suggests that he was involved in the committee?  Not true?  Maybe
>> a different, related committee?
>>
>> Greg
>> --
>> Sent from my desktop computer.
>> Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key.
>> See complete headers for address and phone numbers.
>> This message is digitally signed.  If your Microsoft mail program
>> reports problems, please read http://lemis.com/broken-MUA.php
>>
>

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-06-27  3:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-26 17:56 [TUHS] ANSI (C) vs IEEE (POSIX) Standards Body Selection segaloco via TUHS
2024-06-26 18:32 ` [TUHS] " Ori Idan
2024-06-26 18:42   ` Marc Rochkind
2024-06-26 20:07   ` Aron Insinga
2024-06-26 23:28   ` Peter Yardley
2024-06-26 18:35 ` Marc Rochkind
2024-06-26 18:43   ` James Johnston
2024-06-26 18:52     ` segaloco via TUHS
2024-06-26 19:34       ` Heinz Lycklama
2024-06-26 20:01         ` Charles H Sauer (he/him)
2024-06-27  2:36           ` [TUHS] Re: arithmetic, " John Levine
2024-06-27  3:41             ` Charles H. Sauer
2024-06-26 20:29         ` [TUHS] " Marc Rochkind
2024-06-26 21:17           ` Rich Salz
2024-06-26 21:20           ` Alan Coopersmith via TUHS
2024-06-26 21:28             ` Warner Losh
2024-06-26 21:49               ` Rich Salz
2024-06-26 21:53               ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2024-06-27  0:44                 ` Clem Cole
2024-06-27  1:11                   ` [TUHS] Origin of the name POSIX (was: ANSI (C) vs IEEE (POSIX) Standards Body Selection) Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2024-06-27  2:12                     ` [TUHS] " Ron Natalie
2024-06-27  2:37                       ` Warner Losh
2024-06-27 14:19                       ` Steffen Nurpmeso
     [not found]                     ` <CAC20D2M+75ohjTPcTBmBkejeaWjQQjWCkf=4ZYrP4Bk0MCamKA@mail.gmail.com>
2024-06-27  3:02                       ` Clem Cole [this message]
2024-06-27  3:03                         ` Clem Cole
2024-06-27  3:08                         ` Clem Cole
2024-06-27  8:20                     ` Eric E. Bowles via TUHS
2024-06-27 11:56                       ` John S Quarterman
     [not found]                         ` <CAEoi9W4ZSVCVsJJ8pdBuBobeeXOkwsey0kM6DWBnPiuSd_7TQA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                           ` <CANCZdfoghuf4n=HDgRJXDJ5VqZ=rCtmq_0WadaR6kj8QmcoVQQ@mail.gmail.com>
2024-06-27 13:42                             ` John S Quarterman
2024-06-27 11:58                     ` Dan Cross
2024-06-27 14:34                       ` Clem Cole
2024-06-27 15:05                         ` [TUHS] Re: Origin of the name POSIX Heinz Lycklama
2024-06-27 13:57                   ` [TUHS] Re: ANSI (C) vs IEEE (POSIX) Standards Body Selection Steffen Nurpmeso
2024-06-27 14:22                   ` Chet Ramey via TUHS
2024-06-27 14:29                     ` Andy Kosela
2024-06-27 14:59                       ` Clem Cole
2024-06-27  4:12             ` Wesley Parish
2024-06-27  4:52             ` G. Branden Robinson
2024-06-26 19:47     ` Aron Insinga
2024-06-27  5:02       ` Nevin Liber
2024-06-26 20:36   ` Stuff Received
2024-06-26 22:33     ` James Johnston
2024-06-26 20:32 ` Clem Cole
2024-06-26 22:04   ` Heinz Lycklama

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