From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 39e01932 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 21:00:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 8B54C947C8; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 07:00:51 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D88947B9; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 07:00:18 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="CR8QPzo9"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 27C4A947B9; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 07:00:17 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-wr1-f45.google.com (mail-wr1-f45.google.com [209.85.221.45]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29179946BD for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 07:00:16 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-wr1-f45.google.com with SMTP id k6so17741316wrn.11 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 14:00:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=vRHuwMLbsqSTaVf4/6EsuoJIa5xBtuyIJU3qxlCuqng=; b=CR8QPzo9lyVa+zIvDLSVlyOyvFxQoaOlIsMvCekXtWiyWlKH8+MwIBDarrDOHiMn4/ hlRLSFJRHo2kqugnlYY9lzDcwvF4T68v+qqZ1E+FlNLL0m+wszYtYIXNkuOyHH5dQYSp Db8Z/0WifCD2fn3yEgG1m4aYoI/lbjntlqPzk= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=vRHuwMLbsqSTaVf4/6EsuoJIa5xBtuyIJU3qxlCuqng=; b=QRd9ctI7GJ0OjmZKfjAtE1dw2uXyyJKYIZ2bkv9KwJTFPPIQWrO6LMTPLbOQZBSsJW qa2qsozQopucofYtz0ct/dziJm6PIroBWWTqSb5Gpn4iJ7J4RiRwxnpeviVw3YYLOBbx iKH2iyNh2MA7UJqWG8gErRFTXrPPuWSeEGEQRD5Qi+E715DWqi0JM/iWVvFTmi+Xk38u waE2J6j2LsVVACq3lQ5jiwJ++22QWUFwsi/7fyLSiL6aPRKph8v04Uzgd+3Feo+aSm22 lHCOwvgtRSIbriAoT1RA6nBJziMq+YjLbp7ZfBzyW2nclzQopTjbXktzFmZ8Usk09wxd mAuQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXaoMqIAqvaNPqzt/k4cEJhpjDRdnolY8Bqv+NYVJ9UIVqhA324 lhpYvYVaLbrXTfqsDs23HSTyuxfbogGdMuWGZJ71XbFJU1MNYA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyYqSHqzNsDt3dMSo9iAAxsuPUGGg8zrJzyOg/3F2ElPZVcvby0wGkMZwIdPRn7PynybhNEBwl0wsj/DvH9TQk= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:640f:: with SMTP id z15mr34834342wru.217.1568322014492; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 14:00:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 16:59:48 -0400 Message-ID: To: Kevin Bowling Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000009151610592616c54" Subject: Re: [TUHS] IBM Unix source licenses [was Re: PWB vs Unix/TS X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --0000000000009151610592616c54 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Kevin/Charlie: On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 3:31 PM Kevin Bowling wrote: > Charlie, there is some interesting history of the pre-RS/6000 AIX > stuff here (you give a quote :)). Particularly page 41 gives a > chronology of UNIX at IBM: > https://amaus.net/static/S100/IBM/RTPC/AIX%20Family%20Definition%201989.pdf Awesome - thank you, > > > Prior to AIX the Series/1 had a UNIX port in the early '80s. I think > that work happened in Boca Raton. > FYI: the original S/1 port was done at Cleveland State with the Seventh Edition - the name of the Prof that led it I can not say I remember nor his HW configuration, but I do remember his presentation. It is where the term 'NUXI' was coined. I want to say in 1979 or 1980, they gave a wonderful talk about it. They had some help from folks at Case as they did not have a PDP-11 of their own and never seen UNIX before (*i.e.* they arranged to borrowed time on a PDP-11 at the EE Dept at Case. They wrote a new back end for the Ritchie C compiler, and recompiled everything, wrote new drivers for the S/1 HW and rewrote m40.s as needed. Then they wrote the disks, then drove the packs back to Cleveland State. IIRC it took a summer of work to complete). FWIW: The PDP-11 has an interesting way it does byte-swapping and when they first booted the system, the first message was NUXI which was how the S/1 saw the strings. The term was used from then on in the community to describe byte-swapping issues. I remember all of us in the audience howling with laughter when they described their work. Unfortunately, this was before USENIX kept conference proceedings so I'm not sure if the talk and paper were archived. And the truth is, I wish we had that port in the TUHS archives. --0000000000009151610592616c54 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Kevin/Charlie:

On Thu, Sep 12= , 2019 at 3:31 PM Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com> wrote:
Charlie, there is some interesting history of = the pre-RS/6000 AIX
stuff here (you give a quote :)).=C2=A0 Particularly page 41 gives a
chronology of UNIX at IBM:
https://amaus.net/static/= S100/IBM/RTPC/AIX%20Family%20Definition%201989.pdf
= Awesome - thank you,

=C2=A0


Prior to AIX the Series/1 had a UNIX port in the early '80s.=C2=A0 I th= ink
that work happened in Boca Raton.
FYI: the origina= l S/1 port was done at Cleveland State with the Seventh Edition - the name = of the Prof that led it I can not say I remember nor his HW configuration, = but I do remember his presentation.=C2=A0 It is where the term 'NUXI= 9; was coined.=C2=A0 I want to say in 1979 or 1980, they gave a wonderful t= alk about it.=C2=A0 =C2=A0They had some help from folks at Case as they did= not have a PDP-11 of their own and never seen UNIX before (i.e. the= y arranged to borrowed time on a PDP-11 at the EE Dept at Case.=C2=A0 They = wrote a new back end for the Ritchie C compiler, and recompiled everything,= wrote new drivers for the S/1 HW and rewrote m40.s as needed.=C2=A0 Then t= hey wrote the disks, then drove the packs back to Cleveland State.=C2=A0 II= RC it took a summer of work to complete).=C2=A0=C2=A0
=
FWIW: The PDP-11 has an interesting way it does b= yte-swapping and when they first booted the system, the first message was N= UXI which was how the S/1 saw the strings.=C2=A0 The term was used from the= n on in the community to describe byte-swapping issues.

I remember all of us in the audience howling=C2= =A0with laughter when they described their work.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Unfortunately= , this was before USENIX kept conference proceedings so I'm not sure if= the talk and paper were archived.

And the truth is= ,=C2=A0I wish we had that port in the TUHS archives.=C2= =A0
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