From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,URIBL_SBL,URIBL_SBL_A autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 8e5f9594 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2019 16:42:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id D44579BF9D; Sat, 2 Nov 2019 02:42:04 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0FF493DA3; Sat, 2 Nov 2019 02:41:30 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="atTMBOTl"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 4D79A93DA3; Sat, 2 Nov 2019 02:41:28 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qk1-f170.google.com (mail-qk1-f170.google.com [209.85.222.170]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5642F93D74 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2019 02:41:26 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qk1-f170.google.com with SMTP id q70so11209406qke.12 for ; Fri, 01 Nov 2019 09:41:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=mGsYrCAZPzubgbeOKYtaZuDvWWsqy7RmzBc+zFW5seg=; b=atTMBOTl1yc4hLLZaDqNJp+OXzISgyAO4IxJs7wu8/UWpO5Bn26+zrm3i3HV5dMOr4 jeBzFhZm1z+rVoxcj1zG27Tsp5P99t+5tPT8TjZVezJQnqMrDmDoCsv1LEHAm0DpS+QP P8zngYosnYeEYPEiQttvofv5cutsi8Run8vP8= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=mGsYrCAZPzubgbeOKYtaZuDvWWsqy7RmzBc+zFW5seg=; b=Yv9LqcdNKlrYCFN+dQXm0hfIOoSFBlza1qBCyqaEiWMMsBuE6DAH9QI5xpZMdbYceP btB+WwVbF979gD6lDnV0wABeCtaFTizmnebtxJrC92N/dRY7ONcThswSOfpFAeBnuv4j J48ep/lcZ1ObKYqozUeADZv0bqzqRuKCrp6td0nTOh6yy8y/bDMQbI+awThm4LC9nWMq j2dBJec5J0FCuP3R2kavNerGf3aDBcXGcPt0GqujIZjRJsWvso+GXR1S7OvKZyhhOn3S kyJADc1rd32N28Apinem+3PpsHSyjwuarBJMAzdlDZiEGzJpiOm1/HaNwU6VKT1RXuPx 6E7g== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUOu6fwriPctjDusUcMssFGDGpjLUPDisCY7QaiKXDQ37OH52+U C2EML4CpNuwHYA3vgkgyZmARAxSHNVAYUofyKSCjcCIStqY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxPXAHiJ9Bb4mKQDAOnlIMm8b67fPCbZ7LtmFHr1h5lE/kruTBfE04oSGGVbre6MhpbkR0xRidnR+cjbKbbw10= X-Received: by 2002:ae9:e215:: with SMTP id c21mr9601081qkc.476.1572626484982; Fri, 01 Nov 2019 09:41:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20191029040434.GA29996@minnie.tuhs.org> <201910310751.x9V7pJ26030054@freefriends.org> In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2019 09:40:58 -0700 Message-ID: To: Tom Lyon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000008eee05964ba31e" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Unix, IBM, 370 X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000008eee05964ba31e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 6:52 AM Tom Lyon wrote: > The Bell Labs 370 port was different, it was based on running inside of > TSS/370, which was an IBM OS which hardly anyone besides Bells's ESS group > used. > It's funny, I did not learn of it until after CMU discommomission that IBM/TSS system which I broke in on. > > Clem can tell us all about the IBM/Locus port to the 370. > Yeah it was called and would be a product Locus did for IBM (AIX/370) primarily for the University market. It's what the Locus (TCF) book describes. > And maybe there was another IBM port?? > I'm not sure what Amdahl had originally. I had always thought it was based on your original from Princeton. > > Much later, Sun ported Solaris to the Hitachi HDS 370 clones (for > Hitachi), and then to Amdahl clones for Amdahl/Fujitsu. > I heard that had been done, but never knew how well it worked. --000000000000008eee05964ba31e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 6:52= AM Tom Lyon <pugs@ieee.org> wro= te:
The Bell Labs 370 port was different, it was based on running inside of = TSS/370, which was an IBM OS which=C2=A0hardly anyone besides Bells's E= SS group used.

It's funny, I = did not learn of it until after CMU discommomission that IBM/TSS system whi= ch I broke in on.

Clem can tel= l us all about the IBM/Locus port to the 370.=C2=A0
Yeah it was called and would be a product Locus did for IBM (AIX/370) p= rimarily for the University market. =C2=A0 It's what the Locus (TCF) bo= ok describes.

=C2=A0
And maybe there was another IBM p= ort??
I'm not sure what Amdahl had orig= inally.=C2=A0 I had always thought it was based on your original from Princ= eton.


=C2=A0

Much later, Sun ported Solaris to the Hitachi HDS 370 clones (for = Hitachi), and then to Amdahl clones for Amdahl/Fujitsu.
I heard that had been done, but never knew how well it worked.
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